bubbysmommy wrote:

They devalue their own lives when they choose to murder an innocent.

No, that is your devaluation of their life.

[QUOTE=RiverMoonlady;378976]Wouldn't you be more than a little bit bothered if one of these people lived next door to you???  They could be there and you wouldn't even know their history.[/QUOTE]

If they were in prison (as all of the above have been and remained or remain until they died or will do so until their deaths whether from the DP or natural causes) then where is the need to be bothered?

Not supporting the DP is a long way removed from suggesting we let convicted dangerous people out onto societies streets: Hindley and Brady, Fred and Rose West, Shipman, all in the UK a country currently without the DP though it is increasingly likley with the new rise of new rightism it may return in the future, all of these people were long term lifers without any possibility of parole.


Indeed if one is really concerned about serial killer, multiple killers and rapists living next door the real worry is the unconvicted ones as serial killers can have random triggers, blondes, brunnetts men women, tall short, slim fat etc multiple killers often have psychosis that can strike at anytime and rapists are normally those you know family, friend, neighbour.

I personaly prefer not to live in fear; been raped got over it; came dam close to being killed (don't recomend it) got over that also.

So no if any of the above or similar were in prison near me i'd not be bothered and the likelyhood of those convicted of such crimes being released is so small it is not worth letting fear take a hold.

becca97 wrote:

.....So no if any of the above or similar were in prison near me i'd not be bothered and the likelyhood of those convicted of such crimes being released is so small it is not worth letting fear take a hold.

What most people fail to learn about this topic is that murderers have one of the lowest rates of recidivism around. One is more likely to be murdered by a drug dealer moving in next door than a person paroled after serving a long prison sentence for murder.

[QUOTE=RiverMoonlady;381950]Becca97, I wasn't talking about people in prison.  I was referring to those who are released on parole, which does happen to those who have committed murder and/or rape.

Nice of you to let us know you were changing the focus from serial killers et al to potential parolees.

It would depend entirly on the individual concerned and as the chance of dangerous convicts receiving parole is actualy slim (does occur but not as often as is feared) i'm not going to loose any sleep over maybe's and what ifs.

People get all bent out of shape about child molesters and sex offenders in their neighborhoods, but who gets notified if a murderer is released?  It's not that I am personally afraid of these people.  I have family and friends and I want them all to have long, good lives.[/QUOTE]

We all wish our friends and family long happy lives HOWEVER giving into fear and inventing problems is nonsensical.

Would i welcome with open arms a convicted rapist or murderer? Probably not but until/unless it occurs i'm not about to let the potential get in the way of rationality.

RiverMoonlady wrote:

Becca97, I wasn't talking about people in prison.  I was referring to those who are released on parole, which does happen to those who have committed murder and/or rape.

You can't mix the crimes of rape and murder (unless the guy did both in which case he wouldn't be getting out anyway.) They have two different profiles and the murderer has a lower recidivism rate which is in the very low percentiles. You're more likely to be murdered by a released drug user than a paroled murderer.

People get all bent out of shape about child molesters and sex offenders in their neighborhoods, but who gets notified if a murderer is released?  It's not that I am personally afraid of these people.  I have family and friends and I want them all to have long, good lives.

It's strange that many people refuse to realize that the person you hug at the front door is more likely to molest your children than a paroled sex offender.

And as someone already pointed out, many of those convicted murderers are not likely to get out of prison. Many that do get out will be so old they don't have enough strength to pull the trigger.