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7 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2007 - 12:07PM #1
BeliefnetCheryl
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7 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2008 - 7:35PM #2
dorothysweeney
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My name is Eileen and I have avoided this forum since I first joined here back in 2004.  I would come here occasionally and read some things that were written and then click off and go somewhere else.

I am married almost 35 years and have three kids - well, two are adults and one is borderline adult.  My youngest is a girl of 17, my next is a boy who is handicapped and will be 25 in June and finally, my oldest, just turned 27 last month.  I raised my children with love - and probably over spoiled all of them because for 8 long years, I could not get pregnant so my first born is what I call my miracle child.  My handicapped son is my survivor since I lost his twin and my third is in my heart the daughter God allowed me to have and she is also my only natural child birth.

I am here because my oldest, my miracle child, is in prison serving life without the possibility of parole for the murder of his children, my grand babies.  I am shattered and I love that boy with every single breath I take.

I do understand how people feel about my son - how he is considered a monster by many but I am here to show you the other side of the story.  You all hear about the victim's families - this is my family.  Both my handicapped son and daughter love their brother.  My daughter understands what is happening while my handicapped son simply says - something happened to my brother inside his head.  Why can't doctors help him and why can't he ever come home again - I love him.  What do you say to that?

I never really thought about the death penalty - taking a life does not bring back the one who was murdered and I don't think it really makes the pain go away, either.  I realize this person won't be able to hurt anyone again but putting him/her to death - does that simply end it all?  My son was told to plead guilty to life to get off the death penalty which he did as he was told he was not defendable.  Since he's been incarcerated, he's been in suicide watch more than once and is now in the mental ward of the prison. 

I always knew something was wrong with him after he married but he was in total denial telling me I didn't want him to be happy which he wasn't.  Now, he's been diagnosed with a personality disorder - so why didn't his public defenders see something wrong with him.  Oh, they brought in a specialist who spent a total of four hours with him and then I was told the things I saw, the changes that happened before my eyes during a prison visit were just things "I" saw.  After all, I am his mother and I would say or do anything.  Yes, I would move heaven and earth to help my son but I told them I didn't want him anywhere near my other two children since I damn well knew there was something inside of him - and to this day, one of those public defenders, every third month, sends my son a prayer card and a short note asking how he is doing.  Why does she do this - I damn well don't think she does this with everyone she defended.

So, here I am - the mother of a convicted murderer who misses the shit out of her grand babies and still loves the one convicted of killing them.
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7 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2008 - 7:52PM #3
becca97
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[QUOTE=dorothysweeney;411009]My name is Eileen and I have avoided this forum since I first joined here back in 2004.  I would come here occasionally and read some things that were written and then click off and go somewhere else.

I am married almost 35 years and have three kids - well, two are adults and one is borderline adult.  My youngest is a girl of 17, my next is a boy who is handicapped and will be 25 in June and finally, my oldest, just turned 27 last month.  I raised my children with love - and probably over spoiled all of them because for 8 long years, I could not get pregnant so my first born is what I call my miracle child.  My handicapped son is my survivor since I lost his twin and my third is in my heart the daughter God allowed me to have and she is also my only natural child birth.

I am here because my oldest, my miracle child, is in prison serving life without the possibility of parole for the murder of his children, my grand babies.  I am shattered and I love that boy with every single breath I take.

I do understand how people feel about my son - how he is considered a monster by many but I am here to show you the other side of the story.  You all hear about the victim's families - this is my family.  Both my handicapped son and daughter love their brother.  My daughter understands what is happening while my handicapped son simply says - something happened to my brother inside his head.  Why can't doctors help him and why can't he ever come home again - I love him.  What do you say to that?

I never really thought about the death penalty - taking a life does not bring back the one who was murdered and I don't think it really makes the pain go away, either.  I realize this person won't be able to hurt anyone again but putting him/her to death - does that simply end it all?  My son was told to plead guilty to life to get off the death penalty which he did as he was told he was not defendable.  Since he's been incarcerated, he's been in suicide watch more than once and is now in the mental ward of the prison. 

I always knew something was wrong with him after he married but he was in total denial telling me I didn't want him to be happy which he wasn't.  Now, he's been diagnosed with a personality disorder - so why didn't his public defenders see something wrong with him.  Oh, they brought in a specialist who spent a total of four hours with him and then I was told the things I saw, the changes that happened before my eyes during a prison visit were just things "I" saw.  After all, I am his mother and I would say or do anything.  Yes, I would move heaven and earth to help my son but I told them I didn't want him anywhere near my other two children since I damn well knew there was something inside of him - and to this day, one of those public defenders, every third month, sends my son a prayer card and a short note asking how he is doing.  Why does she do this - I damn well don't think she does this with everyone she defended.

So, here I am - the mother of a convicted murderer who misses the shit out of her grand babies and still loves the one convicted of killing them.[/QUOTE]

hi Dorothy, i'm fairly sure i've met you elsewhere on Bnet in one of its incarnations if i'm mistaken then hello anyway and {{{{{hugs}}}}}

I can not even begin to imagine how you feel and the pain in your life.

For you to come on here and share this perspective is very brave, i only hope you are not punished for what your sons mental issues led him to do.

A few of us both anti DP (like myself) and Pro DP (Jodi/bubbysmommy) have been through alot of hard, horrible life stuff and somedays even now are a battle so i think you will get empathy, i hope you will get empathy.

Someone once sent me this song when i was going through tough times, i offer it now to you and Jodi and whomever else needs a little bit of inspiration in lifes tough times.

Eagle When she Flies - Dolly Parton - Music video

Lyrics

peace to you
beccaxx
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7 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2008 - 9:47AM #4
daddywags
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hi eileen,
what a hard situation you are in. i believe that those that are in support of the dp want revenge, not justice.
it is amazing that the system can not, or does not, look at someone who did what your son did as being mentally ill and treat the case as such.
you may want to talk to a atty. that specializes in dp cases and get their take on the situation, maybe they can give you some info on how to go about approaching the case now.  stay in contact with the doctor who is dealing with your son in the mental area and climb the ladder of boss's until you reach someone that can give you the answers you want- like transferring him to a state hospital or something like that.  it can be a rough road.  i too had a brother who spent time in prison and tried to kill himself.  look into the adverse reactions of the drugs your son is on, some do lead to suicidal thoughts!!! 
have you talked with anyone yet, for yourself?
maybe they can help you with how to talk with you other son about why his brother can't come home.
staying positive in your situation is hard, but, you must.  know that i, we, understand, not by going through the same thing, but, by our knowledge of the pain and sorrow you must feel, and support you in your situation.  there is always and ear here for you!
peace is the building block of life...
daddywags
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