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5 months ago  ::  Dec 27, 2011 - 12:33PM #20
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 11:23PM #19
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My problem with the nasty little verse has nothing to do with my food choices.  It has everything to do with cruelty to animals.  And it has to do with changing the words of one of the classic Christmas tunes, 'The Christmas Song,' written in the 1940s by the great Mel Torme.


As for the perverted verses in the OP, if you wanted to say something cruel, any two-syllable noun that refers to a living being would do.  You could have 'Christians roasting by an open fire,' for example, or 'Catholics roasting by an open fire.'  Or perhaps 'beagles roasting by an open fire,' 'prom queens roasting by an open fire,' or 'lawyers roasting by an open fire.'


No matter which noun of this sort that you use, they all come out disgusting.  And that includes the stupid Lehrer song, as well as junk like K-9us's 'Punching my dog,' as well.


What's the matter with people, anyway, thinking that causing pain and suffering to innocent animals that haven't done anything to them is so funny?  If anything, it's sick.  Cruelty to animals is not a laughing matter.  And, if this sort of thing is popular in America, or anywhere else, it is a reflection of a sick society.


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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 8:31PM #18
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Dec 26, 2011 -- 7:42PM, TemplarS wrote:


Reminded me of the granddaddy of this sort of song-  for those of us old enough to remember Tom Lehrer:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY








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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 7:52PM #17
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Dec 25, 2011 -- 4:01PM, solfeggio wrote:


Creepy, nasty, and in incredibly bad taste.  Try substituting kittens or puppies, or babies for chipmunks and see how funny it is then.





I am really not into Far Eastern Cusine. They will eat anything that breathes.


Prince Philip made an imfamous statement:


"If it has legs but is not a chair,swims but is not a submarine or flies but is not an airplane, the Cantonese will eat it."

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 7:42PM #16
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Reminded me of the granddaddy of this sort of song-  for those of us old enough to remember Tom Lehrer:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY





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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 12:58PM #15
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You know, just picture in your mind Newticles Gingrich as a "Ferengi" from "Star Trek: TNG" ; that will make one aware of how mercenary and far out Gauleiter Gingrich, is. 

A conservative is someone who believes that firefighters, teachers, and police officers are overpaid. 

"Wesley told the early Methodists to gain all they could and save all they could so that they could give all they could. It means that I consider my money to belong to God and I see myself as one of the hungry people who needs to get fed with God’s money. If I really have put all my trust in Jesus Christ as savior and Lord, then nothing I have is really my own anymore." 

Republicans experience suffering the way they experience all their virtues, i.e. vicariously. 

According to "just war" standards of Christian theology, if Saddam Hussein killed 30,000 Iraqis, and the Iraq War killed 120,00, how was the War "just"?
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 12:35PM #14
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Dec 25, 2011 -- 10:17PM, jane2 wrote:

The word was Grinch--another American character created by Dr. Seuss.


As in Newt GinGRINCH.

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 12:34PM #13
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Dec 25, 2011 -- 10:03PM, solfeggio wrote:

Grouch?


Yes.


Well, if thinking that an unfunny verse depicting inoffensive small mammals being tortured and cooked makes me a grouch, then fine.....


You shouldn't be so arrogant to believe that anyone should change anything they say or do based on your food choices. I could not care less what you eat.

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2011 - 3:37AM #12
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Dec 25, 2011 -- 4:01PM, solfeggio wrote:


Creepy, nasty, and in incredibly bad taste.  Try substituting kittens or puppies, or babies for chipmunks and see how funny it is then.




Many of us consider it creepy, nasty and incredibly bad taste to think roasting babies is no worse than chipmunks.

The dwarves of yore made mighty spells,
While hammers fell like ringing bells
In places deep, where dark things sleep,
In hollow halls beneath the fells.

For ancient king and elvish lord
There many a gloaming golden hoard
They shaped and wrought, and light they caught
To hide in gems on hilt of sword.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 25, 2011 - 11:45PM #11
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Dec 25, 2011 -- 10:33PM, solfeggio wrote:


Oh, yeah, it was grinch, wasn't it?  I didn't look all that closely at the post.  I know the book.  In fact, my grandson has the film on DVD.


But the grinch hates Christmas, so that ain't me. 


At any rate, a grinch is a party pooper, killjoy, etc., etc.  And, again, that ain't me.  I have a sense of humour, but I also know what it isn't safe or good to laugh at, namely something that depicts pain or death in harmless individuals.




But HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS has a good ending. I'm sure different countries have different humor quotients......A subset of Americans tend to the quirky and even the snarky--I'm one of them. My teen grandchildren can shoot quirky one liners faster than the proverbial greased lightening: they didn't get that from the stones. Some of us "smart-off" from time to time also.


The Grinch is a real part of Americana. In our family HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS is second only to Ralphie in A CHRISTMAS STORY. I would not understand popular culture across the world, but I love Americana. We can be a zany bunch...................


 

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