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4 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2010 - 3:59PM #1
Grinandbearit
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Apple has suffered another embarrassment. A security breach has exposed  iPad owners including dozens of CEOs, military officials, and top  politicians. The breach exposed the most exclusive email list on the planet, a collection of  early-adopter iPad 3G subscribers that includes thousands of A-listers  in finance, politics and media, from New York Times Co. CEO Janet  Robinson to Diane Sawyer of ABC News to film mogul Harvey Weinstein to  Mayor Michael Bloomberg. It even appears that White House Chief of Staff  Rahm Emanuel's information was compromised.


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Anyone here buy one of these things?


 


 


 

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1Co 1:27  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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4 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2010 - 4:28PM #2
Christianlib
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For a long time, one of the sneering points used by arrogant Apple and Mac users has been the claim that Apple is "almost perfectly secure" and Microsoft if "full of holes."


Their own petard they have been hoist by.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2010 - 7:45PM #3
Ironhold
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Jun 10, 2010 -- 4:28PM, Christianlib wrote:


For a long time, one of the sneering points used by arrogant Apple and Mac users has been the claim that Apple is "almost perfectly secure" and Microsoft if "full of holes."


Their own petard they have been hoist by.





Apple's primary security protocol for their operating systems and hardware could best be described as "obscurity."


Up until the last few years, so few people used Apple products on a regular basis that there was simply no point for most crackers or virus-writers to bother with Apple product; IBM-clones so dominated the market that a system designed to attack one of them would cause more devastation.


Likewise, it's why you see more virus and trojans written for Internet Explorer than you do for Firefox or Opera: IE is in use in far more computers than the other two, and in fact comes standard as a part of Windows.


 


Thing is, Apple is now so famous that their products are flying off the shelves. Thus, it's now worth the bad guys' time to try and figure out how to play around with it.


Apple needs to go get on the ball if they want to figure out how to block everything.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 13, 2010 - 9:23AM #4
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I do 95% of the IT work in my library and I teach all of the computer classes.  I have to maintain about 50 pcs.   I have been a PC user for 25 plus years.  I own two pcs. I also have one IMAC.  I have to tell you, the difference in quality is incredible.  The IMAC is more than security.  The superiority of the IMAC cannot be exaggerated.  PCs are getting more and more aggravating. Although, I do think Windows 7 is a step in the right direction but make no mistake, Windows 7 is not a total operating system overhaul but merely a good facelift.  Microsoft does not play well with others.  They want you to be a prison to their often inferior products.  VLC is superior to Media Player.  Internet Explorer consistently rates as a mediocre browser in both benchmark speeds and security.  Their web design software Expression Web refuses to play with other browsers and has more glitches than should be legal.  We paid $200 for that piece of crap.  Don't get me started on SIlverlight.  Even MS products don't all work with the newest version of Silverlight.


MyTMouse is right that PCs are targeted more. However, there is another problem.  Microsoft has been horribly slow to respond to security hacks.  Also, Microsoft makes it easier for the hackers to do it by including major glitches in almost all of their software. More than Apple does.  Also, getting one thing to work with another is getting to be an exhausting process with PCs.  You don't have that problem with Apple.


You can criticize Apple all you want but the fact is their computers are slick. I think they deserve credit for putting out such sleek and efficient machines.  When you want to DO work on a computer rather than work ON a computer, Apple is the way to go.  PCS are wonderful for IT professionals.  They are job security.


I used to love the problem-solving that goes with PCs.  In the beginning, all you could do with computers was figure them out.  The challenge was exhiliarating.  Now, I actually prefer using the computer as a tool to do other things.  For that, Apples are better.


Apples do not include their products with bloat software.  Every program they include is extremely useful and user friendly. Their programs work together nicely.  That alone is worth the price difference.  Apples are beautiful in both execution and design.  I will never build another website on a pc.  My last one was done on an Apple and my life is too short to do it any other way. I never use my IMAC without coming away in awe of it.   It is the greatest computer I have ever owned or used.


The first generation of anything by Apple does tend to be highly flawed. It always has been. It probably always will be.  Some of that is because they are cutting edge.  Something to be said for that.  However, the second and third generations cannot be beat.  The IPAD is a first generation and only fools rushed out to buy it.  Fools with more money than sense.  Plus, the whole 3G, wireless mess is better handled by Amazon's Kindle.


I don't know if I am going to buy a second or third generation IPAD.  I might and I might not. I never considered the first.  As an ereader, imo, and this is strictly an opinion thing, IPAD is not for people who read a lot. Backlit can wear on the eyes, especially the older you get.  I have a Kindle and the beauty of it is that it has all the advantages of a book and some improvements. I love the page turn on a Kindle to the point that I no longer enjoy books. I hate the weight of books and turning pages has become a distraction whereas on the Kindle, all that exists is the written word.  I love being able to download books from home. The closest, halfway, decent bookstore is 30 miles and it is only halfway decent.  Amazon is much, much better.


So, I never did get Ipad and some of their users have been so rude on the Amazon Kindle forums.  They just go there to be rear ends.  I do love the Kindle. In spite of that, I don't think Apple deserves this much criticism.  They do produce incredibly awesome products and eventually, the IPAD will be one of those products.  As long as Jobs is alive.


 


 


 

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 13, 2010 - 4:32PM #5
Christianlib
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It's not the machines that get under my skin, it's the attitudes of many of the people who use them.

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Libertarians want to break the glass, because they think a conspiracy created it.
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4 years ago  ::  Jun 13, 2010 - 4:40PM #6
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Jun 13, 2010 -- 9:23AM, appy20 wrote:


I do 95% of the IT work in my library and I teach all of the computer classes.  I have to maintain about 50 pcs.   I have been a PC user for 25 plus years.  I own two pcs. I also have one IMAC.  I have to tell you, the difference in quality is incredible.  The IMAC is more than security.  The superiority of the IMAC cannot be exaggerated.  PCs are getting more and more aggravating. Although, I do think Windows 7 is a step in the right direction but make no mistake, Windows 7 is not a total operating system overhaul but merely a good facelift.  Microsoft does not play well with others.  They want you to be a prison to their often inferior products.  VLC is superior to Media Player.  Internet Explorer consistently rates as a mediocre browser in both benchmark speeds and security.  Their web design software Expression Web refuses to play with other browsers and has more glitches than should be legal.  We paid $200 for that piece of crap.  Don't get me started on SIlverlight.  Even MS products don't all work with the newest version of Silverlight.


 


MyTMouse is right that PCs are targeted more. However, there is another problem.  Microsoft has been horribly slow to respond to security hacks.  Also, Microsoft makes it easier for the hackers to do it by including major glitches in almost all of their software. More than Apple does.  Also, getting one thing to work with another is getting to be an exhausting process with PCs.  You don't have that problem with Apple.


 


You can criticize Apple all you want but the fact is their computers are slick. I think they deserve credit for putting out such sleek and efficient machines.  When you want to DO work on a computer rather than work ON a computer, Apple is the way to go.  PCS are wonderful for IT professionals.  They are job security.


 


I used to love the problem-solving that goes with PCs.  In the beginning, all you could do with computers was figure them out.  The challenge was exhiliarating.  Now, I actually prefer using the computer as a tool to do other things.  For that, Apples are better.


 


Apples do not include their products with bloat software.  Every program they include is extremely useful and user friendly. Their programs work together nicely.  That alone is worth the price difference.  Apples are beautiful in both execution and design.  I will never build another website on a pc.  My last one was done on an Apple and my life is too short to do it any other way. I never use my IMAC without coming away in awe of it.   It is the greatest computer I have ever owned or used.


 


The first generation of anything by Apple does tend to be highly flawed. It always has been. It probably always will be.  Some of that is because they are cutting edge.  Something to be said for that.  However, the second and third generations cannot be beat.  The IPAD is a first generation and only fools rushed out to buy it.  Fools with more money than sense.  Plus, the whole 3G, wireless mess is better handled by Amazon's Kindle.


 


I don't know if I am going to buy a second or third generation IPAD.  I might and I might not. I never considered the first.  As an ereader, imo, and this is strictly an opinion thing, IPAD is not for people who read a lot. Backlit can wear on the eyes, especially the older you get.  I have a Kindle and the beauty of it is that it has all the advantages of a book and some improvements. I love the page turn on a Kindle to the point that I no longer enjoy books. I hate the weight of books and turning pages has become a distraction whereas on the Kindle, all that exists is the written word.  I love being able to download books from home. The closest, halfway, decent bookstore is 30 miles and it is only halfway decent.  Amazon is much, much better.


 


So, I never did get Ipad and some of their users have been so rude on the Amazon Kindle forums.  They just go there to be rear ends.  I do love the Kindle. In spite of that, I don't think Apple deserves this much criticism.  They do produce incredibly awesome products and eventually, the IPAD will be one of those products.  As long as Jobs is alive.


 


 


 


 


 


 





My dad has a Nook and he LOVES it. He's also recently bought an IPAD, but was not affected by the security breach. He's a PMP for a large company and running for State Rep so the IPAD has helped him keep everything organized and is better than a "smartphone" for some of the things he needs.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 13, 2010 - 9:27PM #7
appy20
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Jun 13, 2010 -- 4:32PM, Christianlib wrote:


It's not the machines that get under my skin, it's the attitudes of many of the people who use them.





We see that on the Kindle forum.  My God, there are Ipad users that just come to harrass those of us who bought and love the Kindle.  We just can't figure out why they are even there on the forum.  They show up for the purpose of being jerks.  There is quite a few of them and they don't go away! We don't get that from Sony users or Nook users.  Just the freaking IPAD users. 


I can understandthe disdain for an element of the users but I don't think the company or the machines should garner the criticism for that though.


I have to say my IMAC is so wonderful that I almost get high from it. I have a little Ipod Shuffle as well  and I adore that little thing.  I like mine better  than the current one. IMO, mine is just cuter. :PPP   I believe that one day the IPAD will equally impressive.


The only reason I don't have an iphone is because AT&T doesn't have service where I live.  We are in Verizon country and I have a Droid.  I love my Drod. 


I don't know if I ever will get an Ipad.  A lot of times, I end up getting new gadgets because our patrons come to me for electronic gadget help.  It is my niche in the community.  If people start buying an Ipad and want help with it, I will have no choice but to get one.  However, I cannot imagine how I would use it. 


 

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 13, 2010 - 9:47PM #8
Christianlib
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On a ligther note, Barnes & Nobel is supporting the NPR station here, and running a promo for their "e-reader".  You know, the e-reader for Nook.


BUT, when they read the announcement it always comes out "The Nookey" reader.


I gues you can read porn on it.Cool

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2010 - 11:47PM #10
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I have both PC & Mac on my desk. I prefer the Mac.

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