May 25, 2010 -- 6:18AM, Don't_Be_Captious wrote:

Lastly, let me look at just this one implication of the finale:

By virtue of all the Lost cast (or many of the significant ones), and only them, ending up in the Church (e.g. Heaven or whatever-have-you -- note the symbols of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism & Taoism in the stained glass behind Jack when he's looking at Christian Shepard's coffin) --

-- it's safe to say that only the people on Lost (e.g. mainly from Oceanic Flight 815) were of any consequence.  Everyone else any of these people ever knew, at any other point in their entire previous lives, were of no consequence at all.

What the hell is THAT about?  What are the odds that ONLY those people from Flight 815 on the Island "just happened" to be the ONLY important people in your ENTIRE life, that ONLY THEY would be the only people you'd ever see in "heaven" once you died?

etc. etc. etc.

Just another one of the utterly incompetent plot mistakes, gaffes, missteps & vomit-on-yourself lazy writing Lindelof & Cuse et. al. couldn't gloss over...

The ending wasn't specifically relevant to the rest of humanity. It was stated at the end (I guess by Christian S) that they all had agreed to meet in the church in non-time. Any other particular group of people could also choose to meet in non-time..........

sdp 

My guess is that the writers strike seriously put a dent in thier collective story telling ability.  For what it's worth, I like to think of what happened on the island as an elaborate alagorical / metaphysical game of Backgammon.  Since Jacob got all his folks "home" he won.  I really, really, really wish they could elaborated more on the "rules" of the island it possibly could have explained more of what was going on.  How much you wanna make a bet they'll use that as a marketing ploy to sell the "uber collectors edition" DVD set?

May 26, 2010 -- 7:38AM, Don't_Be_Captious wrote:

May 25, 2010 -- 7:33PM, stardustpilgrim wrote:

-- Were the numbers "4-8-15-16-23-42"?

The six candidates were numbered. These were their numbers. I believe this was revealed earlier this season on the wall of the cave.

Well, why were they numbered like that?

I took it that there were other possible candidates (1,2,3, 5,6,7, 9,10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, etc...) ....I think these were also on the 'lighthouse-round-contraption-thingy' ......

  And what did the numbers have to do with everything else that was ever numbered on Lost, except apparently the Atjira flight (though, wasn't that 316?).

IOW, why did the numbers appear to have such a mystical power in the rest of the world, such as winning Hurley the lottery, etc.  This afaik was never even remotely explained, even though it's been one of the basic, biggest mysteries since near the very beginning.

Well, Jacob had certain powers I assume he got from his adoptive mother (since he was born human). I presume Jacob was able to manipulate events in the world to get the candidates to the island. I presume Hurley winning the lottery with those particular numbers was such manipulation......

Moreover, speaking of Jacob's numbering the folks that way, if Jacob & MIB couldn't get "Across the Sea," how did he ever get off the island, in different time periods, to get ahold of each of the candidates?

etc etc etc

Well.....the MIB couldn't get off the island, but Jacob could. He appeared to each of the candidates sometime in their life.......as you say......

 

-- Was the Smoke Monster, [i]really

A fate worst than death. Spoken by the twins adoptive mother and acted upon by Jacob after the MIB killed their (adoptive) mother, as revenge.....'inviting' the MIB to enter the cave.......obviously didn't know what he was doing.......

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Hate to invoke Bill Clinton, but your definition of "is" is different than mine.  I don't mean give me an adjectival description of Smoky, but what is Smoky?  As many internet posts have long posited, is he a bunch of nanobots that can fly around & congeal together as smoke?  What is he made of?  And how does all this mechanically work?

Moreover, why & how did throwing him into "The Source" waterfall thing, change him into Smoke Thing?

I wasn't botherd too much by these questions......

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For that matter, wtf does "The Source" have to do with anything?  What is it? 

And how/why do some of the characters "know" what to do, when it's never explained at all what they're doing?  Like, how did Jack know putting the rock back (or having Desmond move the rock in the first place) affects "The Source?"  Or how did Locke just appropos of nothing "know" to go find the wheel a long time ago, to make the Island move?

For that matter, HOW THE **** DID THE ISLAND EVER MOVE, IN THE FIRST PLACE?  Vague, hand-waving references to "electromagnetic energy" just don't cut it, except for stupid viewers.  And from what I can tell, Lost had a very, very large number of non-stupid viewers, indeed highly intelligent viewers, who I bet now are at least as disappointed & angry as I am at Lindelof & Cuse's idiotic, vomit-on-yourself, lazy "Postmodern" hack writing.

I wholeheartedly agree with these last questions. It totally sucks that these weren't answered.

Mostly, how did adoptive mother have so much power yet obviously had an 'evil' streak? She killed all of the MIB's early/other friends. How were the rules enforced? How were Jacob and MIB able to live over 2,000 years and also grant Richard Alpert long life also? They could have made up something and explained adoptive mother in 5 minutes and wrapped up the whole thing. They chose deliberately not to.

Yes, I was totally ticked off too. In a post some days ago I stated I watched a few episodes in the first season but stopped because I thought all the crazy stuff could never be explained. I started watching again the 4th season............

I think there must be more unhappy fans than happy.

sdp

I was disappointed in just the way DBC described, so I'll basically say "Word!" to all his posts on the way the show ended. I couldn't put it better.

The writers were hacks the entire time.  They just threw a bunch of random weird stuff in there to make us think they were making something Deep and Intelligent, but in the end, the emperor had no clothes--they really had no clue.

LOST is a good project! good idea and actors work! but i think that screenwriters made a big mistake - 4,5 and 6 seasons. I disappointed with this show! I spent 5 years and what I saw in the final???

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