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2 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2011 - 6:50PM #301
steven_guy
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I can very low in falsetto - down to the G or F under middle C. I can't sing as high as I once did in falsetto, but getting to the C or D an octave higher than middle C isn't a problem. "Voce misto" - mixed voice - is very desirable in Bel canto singing. What we get from modern Italianate tenors like Pavarotti is more like "can belto"! haha!


I can sort of get to a high Bb in chest voice, but it isn't a note I'd sing in public anymore.


Some modern tenors used quite a lot of falsetto - Carlo Begonzi used loads of falsetto (he started his singing career as a baritone and he always needed some falsetto to get "up there") and Canadian tenor, Jon Vickers, used a lot of falsetto and head voice in his great interpretation of Peter Grimes.


 


Mar 11, 2011 -- 6:27PM, JCarlin wrote:


I switched to tenor for the Christmas Oratorio, (original instruments, Kammerton) and had no need for head voice.  In other works I had to learn to use it and as you say it is a nice place to sing.  But... Bach seemed to think that you got into head voice with an octive key and I haven't really learned that yet.   Dvořák has the same problem you are singing along comfortably in the lower register and in a semiquaver a run on A's and B's.  I am learning to take head voice much lower now and that helps. 

Mar 11, 2011 -- 5:46PM, steven_guy wrote:

Anyway, as you know, tenors all used falsetto or head voice for note above F of G before around 1820. I am a tenor myself and this is a much more relaxing means of vocal production.








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2 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2011 - 5:07PM #302
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Speaking of Can Belto, the Saturday Matinee of the Met is available streaming at kdfc.com 10am Pacific Time.  Just finished the last act of Lucia.  Some Bel Canto some Can Belto.  Apparantly available in HD Video in theaters "around the world" as well. 

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 17, 2011 - 11:33AM #303
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Feb 12, 2008 -- 8:42AM, ceveazey wrote:

steven_guy wrote:

More music I like on my profile. If any of you liked the music I posted on my profile, I posted another three tracks by Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber, Giovanni Gabrieli and Michael Praetorius.

I'd made full performing scores of most of these works.


I wish I could hear the music, but DANG my audio was not hooked up by the tech who set me up, and I don't know how to do it.  Anyway, you are a musician?  What instrument to you play?


Steven Guy,
I'm back and Ceveazey is me Christine over at A D Atheism.  I didn't get to answer your question because the computer went dead on me and I didn't get another one until recently.  I am, or was a musician, taught classical violin.  But haven't done a lot of playing for awhile and my fingers are changing (fatter) and makes more of an effort to get the notes in tune, plus dexterity/coordination are going, and the brain not what it used to be (much much slower!).  I still enjoy great music in different styles.  If it's good it's ageless.  I just saw Lady GaGa on television, scary.  What do you think about her?

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2011 - 4:03PM #304
steven_guy
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Jun 17, 2011 -- 11:33AM, christine3 wrote:

Feb 12, 2008 -- 8:42AM, ceveazey wrote:

steven_guy wrote:

More music I like on my profile. If any of you liked the music I posted on my profile, I posted another three tracks by Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber, Giovanni Gabrieli and Michael Praetorius.  I'd made full performing scores of most of these works.


I wish I could hear the music, but DANG my audio was not hooked up by the tech who set me up, and I don't know how to do it.  Anyway, you are a musician?  What instrument to you play?


Steven Guy, I'm back and Ceveazey is me Christine over at A D Atheism.  I didn't get to answer your question because the computer went dead on me and I didn't get another one until recently.  I am, or was a musician, taught classical violin.  But haven't done a lot of playing for awhile and my fingers are changing (fatter) and makes more of an effort to get the notes in tune, plus dexterity/coordination are going, and the brain not what it used to be (much much slower!).  I still enjoy great music in different styles.  If it's good it's ageless.  I just saw Lady GaGa on television, scary.  What do you think about her?




I don't mind Lady GaGa, however I find it a little tedious that so many speak of her "originality" and "novelty". She's a straight rip-off of the Korean singer Narsha and the Japanese singer Ayaka Ikio - with some Alison Goldfrapp, Princess Superstar, Peaches and the French performer, Miss Kittin, thrown in for good measure.


Here's a hint for any would-be female American pop stars out there: find a Korean or Japanese female pop star who is doing something kind of cool, kinky and original (there's plenty to choose from!) and do it yourself in an ever so slightly repackaged manner. Hmmmm Arika Takarano from the Japanese Gothic Lolita band, Ali Project, would worthy of such plagiarism. Your international career starts..... here!







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2 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2011 - 4:14PM #305
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For my tastes in music, I need a little more than suggestive, risque, monotonous.  It is boring, of not shocking to me.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2011 - 4:16PM #306
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There you go! Miss Akira from Japan has dumper her Rock band has recently used a string orchestra on every song in her new album. She's the queen of the Gothic Lolita subculture in Japan, along with the young 'cellist, Kanon Wakeshima.


Give it a couple of years and there will no doubt be an American clone.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2011 - 4:22PM #307
steven_guy
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Jul 7, 2011 -- 4:14PM, christine3 wrote:

For my tastes in music, I need a little more than suggestive, risque, monotonous.  It is boring, of not shocking to me.




I don't think that Lady GaGa is "suggestive", "risque" or as "monotonous" as most Rock music I hear these days. God, I hate Rock music! (I should add that for me "Christian" rock/pop music comes close to proving the existence of Satan, and Country & Western music IS Satan's music of choice. Okay, fat elderly white men in striped waistcoats and straw boater hats playing Dixieland Jazz give me the heebie-jeebies, too)


Lady GaGa is just fairly enjoyable club music (try dancing to it in a club or at a party) and her image is totally camp.


 


If I want shocking or risque I put on my DVD of Berg's Lulu or Shostakovich's "Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District" or the good old Karl Böhm video of Richard Strauss's "Elektra".


 


Actually one can go back even further - the scene in Monteverdi's "L'incoronazione di Poppea" when Ottavia blackmails Ottone into murdering Nero's whore lover is pretty full-on. And Jean-Philippe Rameau's opera, "Les Paladins", features two of the male protagonists of marrying and living happily ever after. Rameau's last opera, by the way, was banned for its unbridled feminism and a song in which a peasant girl sings "All power to the individual!" and she's joined by the chorus.



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2 years ago  ::  Jul 14, 2011 - 3:47PM #308
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I've been attempting to play the piano again. Probably a fruitless task and I will be lucky if I manage to entertain my cats. I've managed to struggle through Bach's famous minuet in G - it only makes me wish I owned a harpsichord.


I managed to get the sheet music for Joe Hisaishi's piece, "One Summer's Day" and I am managing to struggle through it. It is deceptively simple.






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2 years ago  ::  Jul 23, 2011 - 8:36PM #309
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Jul 14, 2011 -- 3:47PM, steven_guy wrote:


I've been attempting to play the piano again. Probably a fruitless task and I will be lucky if I manage to entertain my cats. I've managed to struggle through Bach's famous minuet in G - it only makes me wish I owned a harpsichord.


I managed to get the sheet music for Joe Hisaishi's piece, "One Summer's Day" and I am managing to struggle through it. It is deceptively simple.


 




Lovely little piece, Steven. It reminds me of the writing of some of the better quality pianists on Windham Hill Records like William Matthieu and Philip Aaberg. Presently I'm working on a couple of difficult jazz pieces by Bill Evans, which is a handful in itself, not counting being able to improvise on them. I hope you are recovering quickly from your stint in hospital.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 23, 2011 - 9:32PM #310
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Jul 23, 2011 -- 8:36PM, chevy956 wrote:


Jul 14, 2011 -- 3:47PM, steven_guy wrote:


I've been attempting to play the piano again. Probably a fruitless task and I will be lucky if I manage to entertain my cats. I've managed to struggle through Bach's famous minuet in G - it only makes me wish I owned a harpsichord.


I managed to get the sheet music for Joe Hisaishi's piece, "One Summer's Day" and I am managing to struggle through it. It is deceptively simple.


 




Lovely little piece, Steven. It reminds me of the writing of some of the better quality pianists on Windham Hill Records like William Matthieu and Philip Aaberg. Presently I'm working on a couple of difficult jazz pieces by Bill Evans, which is a handful in itself, not counting being able to improvise on them. I hope you are recovering quickly from your stint in hospital.




Thanks. The piece was the main theme from the Miyazaki movie "Spirited Away". I am not a natural pianist. Wind instruments are my forte.


I am feeling better now, thanks.


 

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