Dot--hi.

I know from personal experience that grieving can be a very tricky process.

When my friend was murdered--by the guy who stole her car and drove it around for two hours and then torched it---

--it took me a very long time to come to terms with the fact of her death--

--and with the facts surrounding her death.

I finally thought after months and months that I had reached some sort of acceptance--

--until one of the local tv stations decided to use the video footage of her body being removed from her house on a gutney as their STOCK FOOTAGE whenever any murder occurred.

They used the footge for several years and each time I saw it--always a surprise since they of course gave no warning when they were going to use it--the sight of her body on that gurney in a body bag brought it all back as though it had just happened.

So--I do have some understanding of what your family members have gone--adn continue to go--through.

Too bad not everyone understand that grieving never stops--it only changes over time....

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:25AM, jane2 wrote:

I take conspiracy stories with a grain of salt until................

Sensible attitude. Just remember that conspiracies do happen sometimes and be careful of demanding more proof than you would for another theory. Always check the sources, never accept anything with less than two sources, never believe anyone claiming they've come forward out of patriotism, always let the evidence lead the conclusion, never the reverse and never believe anyone whose first reaction to discovering something illegal is to publish a website instead of calling the cops.

I first came across conspiracy theory while investigating the Ripper murders over twenty years ago. None of the conspiracy theories in that case have satisfied the evidence, several can be proven outright false and all seem to have decided their conclusion before examining the evidence.

Not entirely directed at you, Jane, sorry.

Apr 2, 2011 -- 11:50PM, solfeggio wrote:

(I always wondered if there was any truth to the asserttions in the 'Loose Change' documentary about the Bush administration being complicit in the attacks.)

I doubt it. It involved more planning, foresight and lateral thought than Bush ever demonstrated. Now, Bush's handlers and those above him in the power structure (not the power structure of the US government but the global power structure), that's a different story and I have no idea.

Apr 2, 2011 -- 7:38PM, Stardove wrote:

Apr 2, 2011 -- 4:30PM, Yavanna wrote:

Apr 2, 2011 -- 3:44PM, Stardove wrote:

Apr 2, 2011 -- 6:37AM, DotNotInOz wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:41PM, Stardove wrote:

...an angel made from 9/11 metal.

I am sickened beyond belief by all the stuff being constructed from this or that retrieved from the WTC site, although some of this metal might have come from the Pentagon, I suppose.

Would we salvage things from graves in a cemetery? Of course not. Recycling metal from 9/11 smacks of precisely that to me.

Sorry about the off-topic rant, but this truly disturbs me.

Dot, I understand exactly where you are coming from and it is disturbing to me too. It's like the Navy assault ship USS New York, built with World Trade Center steel. 

Nothing wrong with recycling.

Recycling is great. 

Removing evidence from the largest murder scene in America history before it even cools is a whole other story.

I don't believe anyone is saying Christina, the murdered girl, shouldn't be honored or have a field or even park named in her memory. 

The 9 11 metal and rocks and how they have been used and are still being used is what is in question...at least in my mind.

9/11 is seared in my memory just as it is for many. How the wreckage has been used, not so much. I love New York City and have spent much time there. I am grateful to those who diverted the plane in PA and honor those killed at the Pentagon.

On the evening of 9/12/01 my pastor conducted a memorial service, which since we are Catholic included a mass in the sanctuary and an outdoor candlelit service with our church choir. All 650 families of the parish were called and we filled the church. Our pastor spoke to us of his absolute rage when he heard the news and called the service to help us gain perspective as he had endeavored to do.

We all mourn and grieve differently.

John Kennedy was murdered on my 24th birthday and his brother Bobby died on my son's 5th birthday. I had been in New York on March 17 when Bobby Kennedy joined the St. Patrick's Day parade. I have a Kennedy button I bought at the parade, as well as a John Kennedy for President button I wore in 1960.

And so it goes. (my fave cousin called while I was typing and we talked for a long time--he's off to Paris this month.)