Gay marriage right or wrong

kemeticfollower

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Gay marriage right or wrong

This is a question that is on many peoples minds and to be totally honest I really do not see why for there is only one answer to this. I will give you that answer later if you do not already know it.

First of all a question to all those so call people of faith who are doing all they can to tell us no matter what our faith that the marriage of two people of the same sex is wrong WHY?

Marriage is a holy and personal declaration before a persons fellows and before their Gods, that the person who is standing beside them is the one person that they want to share and spend their lives with in partnership.

Every person has the right to worship how they wish they have the sacred right to share what is in their hearts with their Gods and this is exactly what two people are doing when they enter into marriage.

No man church temple mosque or any other home of faith has the right to deny a person this right to do so would be a crime against their own deity.

Through out time we never see that the Gods of any faith have said this is wrong all we see are the words of mortal men who have no links to the Holy thoughts of the Gods of this world. They have not sat in a place of worship and been told by their deity that two people of the same sex should be denied the right to celebrate their love in this most personal and spiritual way.

Today if we look at the actions of the church of England and the catholic church as well as other faith around the world who are doing all they can to stop the marriage of two people souley on the grounds that they are of the same sex we can see their true fears.

They fear a loss of power a loss of control the loss of right to dictate to others who live in a free world how to think and act.

These so call men of God do not act in the name of love and harmony their action are the actions of men of chaos and hatred for this is all that their action bring to the world.

We as brothers and sisters no matter what faith or race or sexual orientation should be glad for all those who have in this sometimes lonely and loveless world found true love and want to celebrate it and declare it in solemn and holy ceremony before their Gods.

Let us join them in rejoicing in their love the greatest gifts that the Gods of all faiths have given to us.

So the answer to my opening question is YES gay marriage is as right as any other form of marriage and we as fellows should do all we can to help others to have the right to marry before their Gods and let no man have the power to stop it.

Barry

Spiritual leader of the Kemetic Federation and Faith.

REteach

Posts: 13,195

Yep.

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...

darcamani

Posts: 2,138

Sigh.

Although now I am "married" to my partner as of May 19. We still do not get the same benefits as hetero couples who elope and marry in Las Vegas!

We still are not next of kin, and I am a "domestic partner" which makes me and my children a tax burden, that would not even be, if we were straight.

Good news, we kept it sacred. Simple and very meaningful.

Pot luck, 20 guests, commitment vows shared, impromptu dance party, when someone found our cds and found out they were in alphabetical order... and found the boom box.

I think the question is ; marriage, right or wrong? Is it all flash and money? or is it between 2 consenting adults simply wishing to share company until we die off? And sharing that commitment in front of a few who really support the relationship. As far as I am concerned it is the sacred part that made the day and our lives today.

Do_unto_others

Posts: 6,267

Dar,

Do not let them get to you.

You are legally married. Sooner than later, America will catch up to the reality of that and you will get equality before the laws - all of them.

REteach

Posts: 13,195

Yay, Dar! Congratulations! I'm so happy for you! I hope the government catches up soon. can you tell us more about your wedding?

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...

darcamani

Posts: 2,138

((RE)) Thank you! I will wax poetic on our wedding day.

And, if I figure it out, I will post a foto or 2.

We started with the idea of "jumping the broom", to reflevct those not allowed to "marry" could still "keep house", supported by community.

2 small brooms wrapped in orange and gray ribbon, ( the only ribbon in the house!) and beads from our first vaca in New Orleans. Beads are still everywhere. :) Even in a huge oak tree in the back yard. Where we held our garden party/potluck/wedding.

I forgot it was our wedding, having catered hundereds.... so I was up cooking. At 4 a.m. At 6 a.m, G.L joined me and laughed and mentioned leftovers.

By then we had already asked for help to keep us both out of the kitchen. Someone one grill, someone, handling potluck , someone handling us both and keeping us out of the kitchen.

I had a "best butch", in lesbian that means best man, and she made certain I had something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue. She even brougt 3 different blue oxford shirts and a tie! I was so frantic I put the tie on backwards. I was helped by a geek freind of mine that also helped me to roll up my sleeves. :)

My sons stood by G.L. And she wore a hand dyed traditional outfit that I did not get to see untill the actual cerermoney. Beautiful.

Our minister, used both pagan and buddist ritual and all our guests encircled us as we exchanged our vows.

My best butch provided flowers... they were everywhere.

Everyone cleaned up and all that was left were the flowers...

I woke up to a clean Irish wake! All on the table...

So my job was to get all these flowers in vases. G.L needed to clean something.

I went outside to take care of all the flowers and believe me, she found something to clean.

That would be her outfit that is hand made, dyed and requires tender loving care as it is an heirloom.

I am so honered. 'Cuz I actually wore jeans.

REteach

Posts: 13,195

Ah, weddings always make me cry! That is so awesome!

Mazel tov! Congratulations! You guys might be kind of getting up there by then, but I wish you a happy 50th too. :D

I am so happy for you!!!

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...

Do_unto_others

Posts: 6,267

What a lovely picture. Congratulations to you.

CLBERNADETTEH

Posts: 27

im really sorry but i respectfully disagree with gay marriage and homesexual activity in any circumstance now im not meanie its just my opinion and my faith only makes me feel stronger on this matter,it keeps me guarded, dont get me wrong i dont hate people who are gay i just dont agree with what they are doing.. sorry again

i felt i should just give my honest opinion

god bless

claire

Do_unto_others

Posts: 6,267

Oct 31, 2012 -- 8:31PM, CLBERNADETTEH wrote:

im really sorry but i respectfully disagree with gay marriage and homesexual activity in any circumstance now im not meanie its just my opinion and my faith only makes me feel stronger on this matter,it keeps me guarded, dont get me wrong i dont hate people who are gay i just dont agree with what they are doing.. sorry again

i felt i should just give my honest opinion

god bless

claire

Claire,

You are perfectly welcome to your beliefs. But the disrespect comes from your insisting other people should believe in - and ABIDE BY - the tenets of YOUR church, when they are not members of it.

Whether or not YOU happen to "agree with it" or not is moot, since OTHER PEOPLE's marriages do not affect you. (It's kind of like 'disagreeing with' someone being left-handed - it's rather pointless.)

Besides, our struggle isn't with or against YOU. It's with the government for full, equal recognition of our perfectly legal marriages.

Frankly, you can keep you opinion to yourself, since it is irrelevant to OTHER PEOPLE's marriages.

And no, you DIDN'T "HAVE TO" share it in the first place. No one is forcing YOU to have a same-gender marriage, nor is your church being forced to perform them.

As Ann Landers would have said, 'Mind your own beezwax.'

If you REALLY "dont hate people who are gay", then please stop working against them achieving legal equality. WE don't really hate str8 people either, but WE aren't working to deny YOU your rights and freedoms.

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