Aug 13, 2012 -- 5:46PM, Wulf wrote:

If the pro-8 supporters want to limit the damage they would not want the SCOTUS to hear this.  The way the decision was written limits ANY appeals to the evidence at the original trial.  The pro-8 side did a terrible job with their case.

Since they brought forward NO rational, reasoned, secular argument, there was never any chance that they could have done a 'good' job with their case.

Aug 13, 2012 -- 5:46PM, Wulf wrote:

California is a bit different than the rest of the country too in that prop 8 took away rights that had been granted to a class of people.  This would not be the case in other states where that right never existed.

Speak to us of the (formerly?) "inalienable right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness". Don't ALL citizens already have that right?

Plus, The SCOTUS has delcared, on 14 separate occasions" that marriage is a basic human right. Are gay citizens not humans?

And what of the Equal Protections Clause? What of the Full Faith & Credit Clause? If any legal str8 marriage is recognized by ALL other States, why shouldn't all the perfectly legal same-gender marriages be likewise recognized?