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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 4:58PM #11
vra
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May 9, 2012 -- 4:52PM, Ken wrote:


May 9, 2012 -- 4:13PM, vra wrote:


I'm happy he made the move because I think it's simply the right thing to do, but I also think this could hurt him in certain swing states like Ohio, Virginia, and North Carolina. 



They weren't going to vote for him anyway.





Actually polls are close enough whereas these states could go one way or the other, although the one that would be tougher is North Carolina. 

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 5:00PM #12
newsjunkie
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May 9, 2012 -- 4:46PM, mainecaptain wrote:


May 9, 2012 -- 4:40PM, newsjunkie wrote:



I do think Obama will pay a political price for taking this stand, but it might not make that much difference. I think the economy is going to be the deciding factor in the presidential race.




I sincerely hope you are right, (Bolding mine). President Obama may have his faults, but at least he is not trying to take us back in  time, back to biblical times, like the "conservative right wingers" are.




I think part of the president's re-election strategy is to make Romney look like that typical "conservative right winger" you are talking about in your post. The right has focused on making Obama out to be the most radical socialist ever, and I think the Obama campaign will try to paint Romney and his views as regressive in the extreme. Not sure how it will all work out because in reality Obama and Romney are pretty centrist. Romney was pushed far right in the primaries, though, and his likeability numbers are low, maybe because of the his big shift to the right.


It will be interesting to watch, although sometimes it's hard to stomach some of the crap candidates say about each other.

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 5:00PM #13
mainecaptain
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May 9, 2012 -- 4:55PM, vra wrote:




And I agree with the above.  However, in a very close race in several of these states, it may only take several thousand or so votes to determine who the winner will be.  However, with that being said, I do think probably most who even only follow the race somewhat would have known that there's a definitive difference between Obama and Romney on this. 


BTW, since we have just heard from one Republican that he thinks that women shouldn't have been allowed to vote, maybe next we'll hear much the same about blacks as well?  Nowadays, I wouldn't be at all surprised about much of anything coming from that party.  Both of my parents were life-long Republicans, but they really have to be rolling over in their graves now.  My sister, who has never voted for a Democrat in her life, is so angry with them that she says she'll not hesitate to vote for Obama this year and any Democrat who runs against our governor Snyder in 2014. 



Wouldn't it be delightful if some fool actually did voice their regret that both women and other minorites had been given the right to vote.


Or perhaps the right for people of different "races" being permitted to marry. I am surprised that has not been rehashed yet.

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 5:02PM #14
farragut
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Yes, they are close enough that these states could go one way or another.

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 5:03PM #15
Ken
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May 9, 2012 -- 3:35PM, farragut wrote:


I'm delighted. The Grand Old Party used to be dedicated to human freedom, now we have to turn to the Democrats. If we could ever get the Dems away from their commitment to cradle-to-grave entitlement . . . . .



The Democrats abandoned that commitment many years ago. They were never very serious about it in the first place. Today's Democrats are pretty much what Republicans were in the 1950s, apart from the obligatory politically correct noises. 

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 5:29PM #16
Roodog
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If same sex sex is not illegal, neither should same sex marriage.


Let LGBT's marry or else start throwing them in jail!

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 6:14PM #17
rocketjsquirell
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This is something of a YAWN.


President Obama was for equal civil rights for all regardless of sexual orientation before he was President as can be seen in his statements when he was a Senator from Il. He never changed his position. It is nice that he came out and said it, but that is about all.


He will lose exactly ZERO votes for taking this stand since not a single anti-equality, andi civil rights Republican was going to vote for him in any event.


He may gain a few votes from those who had lost heart and given up on him.


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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 6:17PM #18
teilhard
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Yes ...


He already abolished "Don't ask Don't Tell" and abandoned The DOMA Law ...

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 6:20PM #19
TPaine
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May 9, 2012 -- 5:29PM, Roodog wrote:


If same sex sex is not illegal, neither should same sex marriage.


Let LGBT's marry or else start throwing them in jail!



Unless SCOTUS overturns their decision in Lawrence v. Texas same sex sex is not illegal.


Let them marry. It's time to repeal DOMA and all other discriminatory laws.

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 6:31PM #20
mainecaptain
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May 9, 2012 -- 5:00PM, newsjunkie wrote:


May 9, 2012 -- 4:46PM, mainecaptain wrote:


May 9, 2012 -- 4:40PM, newsjunkie wrote:



I do think Obama will pay a political price for taking this stand, but it might not make that much difference. I think the economy is going to be the deciding factor in the presidential race.




I sincerely hope you are right, (Bolding mine). President Obama may have his faults, but at least he is not trying to take us back in  time, back to biblical times, like the "conservative right wingers" are.




I think part of the president's re-election strategy is to make Romney look like that typical "conservative right winger" you are talking about in your post. The right has focused on making Obama out to be the most radical socialist ever, and I think the Obama campaign will try to paint Romney and his views as regressive in the extreme. Not sure how it will all work out because in reality Obama and Romney are pretty centrist. Romney was pushed far right in the primaries, though, and his likeability numbers are low, maybe because of the his big shift to the right.


It will be interesting to watch, although sometimes it's hard to stomach some of the crap candidates say about each other.




I am sorry I missed this. Yes that does make sense, that it would be part of his re-election strategy. And I do agree with the rest of your post.

A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle
Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato..
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson
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