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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 12:04PM #41
Do_unto_others
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Mar 3, 2012 -- 9:00PM, arielg wrote:


Feb 24, 2012 -- 12:41PM, Merope wrote:


Not everyone is happy about this, of course :-(


Sadly, the cardinal of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Maryland says legalization of same-sex marriage threatens families.  I find this very sad because this comment fails to recognize that same-sex marriages are families.


No, they are not.  They are just two friends engaging in creative sex  and playing house. An imitation of the real thing.


The cardinal has promised that the archdiocese will work to overturn the law.


AP story here.









I can't wait for all these faux "Christians" to get raptured. Why they hate other people's freedom of religion is a mystery.


Ariel, re your lie/slur: I hope you get raptured real soon for your false witness.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 12:10PM #42
Do_unto_others
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Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:12PM, arielg wrote:

Stop throwing it on my face and I will keep it to myself.





Yeah ... r-i-i-i-g-h-t. When you  put a picture of your spouse up at work, you call it 'displaying family values'; when gay people do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When you kiss your spouse hello/goodbye at the airport/train or bus station, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU talk about what you and your spouse did on the weekend, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU show pictures of your children to your friends, neighbors, co-workers, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU hold hands walking down the street with your beloved, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU claim health-care benefits for your spouse and children under your workplace's benefits plan, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU claim pensions, inheritances, end-of-life decision-making for/from your spouse, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


Et friggin cetera.


Get yourself a clue.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 3:40PM #43
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 11:13AM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 10:44AM, IreneAdler wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 11:33PM, arielg wrote:


A Family is made up of Parents or other adults and children living in one household. Single adults with children were and are families. It is not gender that makes a family; it is the relationship and caring.  


It is certainly based on gender, not caring or any other characteristics. Those other  unions are friendships. Fine in it's own level.


You can be as creative as you want, but  the real meaning  is  derived from the union of two opposites: a positive  and a negative, a male and female elements, which creates a third  element, a child. That is what the whole marriage and family things are based on. Two positives or two negatives do not produce anything. They just imitate or make believe.





Certainly the couple themselves can make determination as to the quality of their relationship -friendship, lifepartner, etc. and whether they are simply 'making believe'. Otherwise this is just passing judgment upon people  you know nothing about. 


Irene.





But Irene, "passing judgment upon people you know nothing about" is the very raison d'etre of homophobes, the modus operandum of the haters. It's what they DO.





And that's a shame. Such a waste of one's time and abilities.  Allow me to suggest a good game of Scrabble instead. A win at Scrabble can be far more rewarding than sitting in judgment of other folks' lives. 


Irene.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 3:58PM #44
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 3:40PM, IreneAdler wrote:

And that's a shame. Such a waste of one's time and abilities.  Allow me to suggest a good game of Scrabble instead. A win at Scrabble can be far more rewarding than sitting in judgment of other folks' lives.


I wonder why they spend so much time and energy making themselves upset over something that will have absolutely no effect on their lives what so ever. There's some interesting psychology going on here.


And, yes, a game of Scrabble is far more rewarding. Especially when you win.Cool

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 10:14PM #45
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 12:10PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:12PM, arielg wrote:

Stop throwing it on my face and I will keep it to myself.





Yeah ... r-i-i-i-g-h-t. When you  put a picture of your spouse up at work, you call it 'displaying family values'; when gay people do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When you kiss your spouse hello/goodbye at the airport/train or bus station, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU talk about what you and your spouse did on the weekend, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU show pictures of your children to your friends, neighbors, co-workers, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU hold hands walking down the street with your beloved, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU claim health-care benefits for your spouse and children under your workplace's benefits plan, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


When YOU claim pensions, inheritances, end-of-life decision-making for/from your spouse, you're 'displaying family values'; when gays do it, we're "throwing it on [your] face".


Et friggin cetera.


Get yourself a clue.




Excellent post, needed repeating.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 10:29PM #46
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Actually, that is the reason I left homophobia behind. I remember walking downtown one day holding my husband's hand. It just felt so good feeling my hand in his. And it suddenly hit me that I was denying others that simple joy.  I was not treating others as I wanted to be treated. 

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 12:14AM #47
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This thread was moved from the Hot Topics Zone

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2012 - 11:34AM #48
Do_unto_others
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Where it will die the same ignominious death other discussions of gay people go to die.


 


Sigh.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2012 - 9:29AM #49
Do_unto_others
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Seems like I was right (again).


 


This is the third "moved" thread that I have shown that once it gets "moved" here, NO ONE participates anymore.


 


Dear moderators,


Homosexuality is STILL news in America, and still a Hot Topic. PLEASE leave discussions in those threads. NO ONE comes here to continue discussing once you "move" them here. Can you not see that this is true?


 


Yous sincerely.


DUO.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2012 - 8:33PM #50
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DUO, when there is a new hot topic, start a new thread.  Threads get moved to politics, family, marriage, etc, when the threads are no longer active. 

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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