7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 6:02PM #11 | |
I think what's meant by that is that the kinds of behavior Most People exhibit is normal. You know, most people who are normal people -- like us. Some people, however, such as Them, are abnormal, unlike Most People, and do behaviors that are not normal, nor average, plus God don't like 'em, as some would say. What it comes down to is Most People and Some People, and tha fact that Some People aren't like Most People.
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 6:04PM #12 | |
I am not trying to deny anyone their Constitutional rights, and I disagree with your interpretation that homosexuality is necessarily a Constituitonal right. Besides, didn't you agree with me that rights do not come from the Constitution anyway? Why do you say "Constitutional rights" in the first place. I have simply asked Do Unto why he believes homosexuality is normal and should be publicly accepted by society. Let me take this opportunity to respond to his argument. He argued that homosexuality should be accepted because homosexuals are productive members of society. Sounds good, except that all sorts of people who engage in all sorts of unacceptable behaviours contribute to society. This argument, in and of itself, is insufficient. The point is that there is more to being acceptable to society than performing a job of some sort, isn't there?
"The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp."~ The Revelation
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 6:07PM #13 | |
Well, a hammer is a tool used to pound on things. Different kinds of things depending on the hammer. This is its normal use. If someone tried to use a hammer as a wrench for example, that would be an abnormal usage. Now, I am not going to stop someone from using a hammer as a wrench, but I would think there is something abnormal about that. Wouldn't you?
"The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp."~ The Revelation
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 6:10PM #14 | |
Let us look at the term 'unacceptable behaviors' and what it means, Constitutionally. Since We The People retain ALL the rights not delegated to the Federal Government and the Several States, the right to engage in a behavior that does not impose on the rights of others would be among them. Please, elucidate precisely what Constitutional Right is imposed upon by engaging in homosexual behavior. If you cannot, then you must therefore agree that regardless of your opinion, such behavior is Constitutionally protected, just as any behaviors you engage in that others may not find 'acceptable'.
The important thing to remember about American history is that it is fictional, a charcoal-sketched simplicity for the children or the easily bored. For the most part it is uninspected, unimagined, unthought, a representative of the thing and not the thing itself. It is a fine fiction...
Neil Gaiman 'American Gods' β"Ignorance of ignorance, then, is that self-satisfied state of unawareness in which man, knowing nothing outside the limited area of his physical senses, bumptiously declares there is nothing more to know! He who knows no life save the physical is merely ignorant; but he who declares physical life to be all-important and elevates it to the position of supreme reality--such a one is ignorant of his own ignorance." - Manly Palmer Hall βThe Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster cruel vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging three headed beast like god one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes fools and hypocrites. β β Thomas Jefferson |
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 6:18PM #15 | |
Really, you are one of the most intelligent people on this board. I can't believe you would fail so miserably. I must have misunderstood you.
"The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp."~ The Revelation
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 7:07PM #16 | |
How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 9:45PM #17 | |
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 10:28PM #18 | |
I said no such thing. The word "intolerable" appears no where in my reply. In fact, I said you were "welcome to your beliefs". I didn't offer my views; I stated facts.
My "phobia", if one there be, would be of lies and the lying liars who tell them.
The mistruths, the dis-information, the ignorance, the confusion you insist on promulgating.
Bearing false witness is hardly "civil".
Then why come to the "conversation" with insults and lies?
It certainly is, but it won't include mistruths and insults.
You already stated I/my orientation was not to be tolerated in society. your intolerance is nothing new to me.
My statements were factual. Now you want ME to start lying? Not. A. Chance.
My "cause" is gay citizens achieving legal equality. Those that don't "accept" that that is something supposed to be guaranteed in and by the Constitution do not interest me. And you miss the irony in my nom de plume. I tend to do to others exactly as they have done unto me. You reap what you yourself have sewn. ^ ^ ^ And now, back to the topic ... |
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 10:41PM #19 | |
Again, you apparently conflate the innate characteristic ("homosexuality") with homosexual behavior. And, if you actually DO believe that private, consenting homosexual behavior is not Constitutionally protected, then you haven't read/understood Lawrence V. Texas. You. Are. Wrong.
You are (again) conflating persons with acts and innate orientations. ***** Now, once again, could you please address the topic of this thread or I'll simply ask the moderators to delete your posts. They have nothing to do with the premise of the OP. |
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7 years ago :: Aug 16, 2011 - 10:46PM #20 | |
Thanx in advance. |
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