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10 months ago  ::  Aug 24, 2011 - 3:47AM #34
Yavanna
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Aug 17, 2011 -- 5:41PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


"It also seems that they believe that any religious sect other than theirs is evil"


 


Don't they all?





I do hope you're specifying fundamentalists there.

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In hollow halls beneath the fells.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 24, 2011 - 3:44AM #33
Yavanna
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Please, Bob, enlighten us. How has Judaism held back humanity? Give me examples and outlines, by all means. Inquiring minds want to know how Jews have ruined life more than we're already accused of.

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While hammers fell like ringing bells
In places deep, where dark things sleep,
In hollow halls beneath the fells.

For ancient king and elvish lord
There many a gloaming golden hoard
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To hide in gems on hilt of sword.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 24, 2011 - 3:42AM #32
Yavanna
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Aug 16, 2011 -- 4:43PM, simonzur wrote:


Do unto,


I do not believe that homosexuality is a normal behaviour that should be publicly accepted in society, but I would like to hear your view on why it is and why it should be.


 





What does being transgender have to do with homosexuality? Stay on topic and stop damning people for birth defects.

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While hammers fell like ringing bells
In places deep, where dark things sleep,
In hollow halls beneath the fells.

For ancient king and elvish lord
There many a gloaming golden hoard
They shaped and wrought, and light they caught
To hide in gems on hilt of sword.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2011 - 9:39AM #31
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The whole thing is outrageous and reveals once again-that only the most shallow of philosophies or religions teach to consume yourself with concern about what OTHERS do.  This person did no harm to anyone by changing her sex-so why would someone care so much to become enraged by this, so much so that they compromised ethics they swore to and got themselves fired (resignation is just a dishonest term for "fired").


These are the people I find to be an "abomination", they are the lowest of human beings.  We are here to improve ourselves and chase happiness and overcome the obstacles presented by our own minds.  Many people forget their role as human beings and instead try to fix others.  They are wasting their time on this planet and may die in a lesser state than they began!


There is nothing "unnatural" about homosexuality.  And ideas like that it is a sickness (as Mormons would describe it) or a perversion (as other christians describe it) is self serving and below a human being.  It also reveals that these folks have never taken the time to get to know a gay person.  If they had-they'd quickly know it is NOT a choice, this is who they are, how they are wired-no different than a heterosexual person who cannot help but be attracted to members of the opposite sex.


And on this topic of "normal", I would say "No, homosexuals are not normal."  I say this as I believe "normal" means "majority".  They are a minority for sure.  So the real question becomes "Is abnormal okay?"  I would argue that there is no wrongness in the concept of minority.  English is the most spoken language on the planet I believe, does that make it the best?  Certainly not, it is one of the most inefficient languages there is.  So it is clear that being a minority or a minority "behavior" is not "wrong" by its own accord.


These absolutes that low, shallow teachings like christianity teach reveal major problems in the roots of these philosophies.  The truth is that no act has a value by and of itself.  What matters is what is behind an act-what motivates an act.  In this regard, homosexual sex would be "judged" the same way that heterosexual sex would-by the heart of the practitioner, not by the act. 


Christianity (and to a lesser degree the other Abrahamic religions) has held back humanity for centuries and this century is no different.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 7:03PM #30
REteach
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No.  Outside of Christianity and the fringier Islam, others just don't care.  

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 5:41PM #29
Do_unto_others
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"It also seems that they believe that any religious sect other than theirs is evil"


 


Don't they all?

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 2:53PM #28
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I can't find any excuse that could excuse Mr. Demartini's actions. While he certainly has the right to believe that homosexuality behavior is wrong and leads to Hell, as a government employee he has no right to use his knowledge of a person's transgender status to write her a letter, nor to give that information to a church that allows them to contact her. Such actions violate both privacy and civil rights laws. IMO, he should have been fired, not allowed to resign. Link 1


The Most Holy Family Monastery which is the church that allegedly sent Ms. Yust the package she received following the letter appears to be an extremeist organization that beleves that the Roman Catholic Church has been an evil entity since Vatican II (1962-65). It also seems that they believe that any religious sect other than theirs is evil. Link 2

"The genius of the Constitution rests not in any static meaning it might have had in a world that is dead and gone, but in the adaptability of its great principles to cope with current problems and current needs." -- Justice William Brennan: Speech to the Text and Teaching Symposium at Georgetown University,(October 12, 1985)
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 10:53AM #27
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Do unto others;


Thanks.


Interesting, a man felt so threatened by another human being simply being.  Glad he was fired. He hates himself, women and change, better off working at MCds... they worry and at 10:30 anywhere one can count on breakfast going to lunch.


I wonder if this poor soul ever wondered or wandered.  Guilt drips like a gentle rain,dripping and dripping,soaking and then there is blame.


Dar


 


 


 


 

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 10:13AM #26
Do_unto_others
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Aug 17, 2011 -- 8:21AM, watcher59 wrote:


Aug 16, 2011 -- 6:18PM, simonzur wrote:


Aug 16, 2011 -- 5:36PM, watcher59 wrote:


If you object to homosexuality, don't participate in homosexual activity. Join Sunday morning social clubs that agree with you. Talk as much as you wish about how evil it is.






I find this statement of yours surprising.  It seems a somewhat polite way of saying, "Keep your opinions on this subject among those who agree with you."  Was this your intent Watcher?  If so, why would you attempt to stifle my "Constitutional rights" while cautioning against the very same behaviour? 


Really, you are one of the most intelligent people on this board.  I can't believe you would fail so miserably.  I must have misunderstood you.





I thought my statement presupposed your right to religion, assembly and free speech. Additionally, it conceded your right to associate with people of like mind. It draws a distinct line at dictating what is "normal" and "acceptable" outside your social circles. While homosexuality is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, pursuit of happiness specifically is. The only exception to said pursuit is when it imposes on anothers. Who someone chooses to share their home, their life, and their bed with is none of my, or anyone else's, business.





watcher,


Please. Stop. Feeding. The. Trolls.


His posts (and your replies) do NOT address the topic/premise of the OP. That is not Simon's purpose. It is simply to be belligerent and to disrupt an actual discussion with his opinions of God's gay and lesbian chiildren. He cannot (will not?) differentiate between innate orieantation, people and sex acts. Why engage him?


 


Now back to the topic. Please.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 10:11AM #25
Do_unto_others
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Dar, you're terrific. And funny (in a good way).


 


And, the man WAS let go. Too bad they allowed him to go on "paid leave" during the process.

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