Show me and stop being an irrelevant ass.

Thanx,

Ur2

Aug 20, 2011 -- 7:02PM, Ur2 wrote:

Show me instead of being an irrelevant a*s.

ROTFLMFAO!

Aug 20, 2011 -- 6:45PM, Ur2 wrote:

Please go back and read to what I was posting to.

I read every post in this thread before I posted to you.

Aug 20, 2011 -- 6:45PM, Ur2 wrote:

Go back and read my posts and tell me what is "Bigoted and Hateful" in my posts

I cited in my post exactly what I found objectionable and offensive, but since you evidently didn’t read it the first time I shouldn’t bother again, but I will.  So again:  “I see the usual answer from the Liberals is to label every idea other than their own as bigotry and hate. That's as tawdry a ploy as one can grovel for, but not entirely new.”  Insulting, hateful, bigoted and dismissive!

Aug 20, 2011 -- 6:45PM, Ur2 wrote:

...unless you can provide something personal along these lines of your accomplishments.

One son, seven stepchildren and 28 foster children.

Aug 20, 2011 -- 6:45PM, Ur2 wrote:

what have you to say of Gays adopting children?

There are children in the U.S. that go to bed every night dreaming that someday someone will walk through the door and adopt them.  That there are children in the U.S. who wonder what they did wrong because no one loves them.  That there are children in the U.S. that have never known what it was like to sit around the table with family at Thanksgiving.  Some of these children won't be adopted because they aren't cute babies, they have problems because of abuse, or they are disabled or disfigured.  There are thousands of these children and if someone wants to try to be parents to these children let them!

It's easy to sit back and talk about how gays shouldn't adopt children when you have never held a sobbing child in your arms wanting to know what is wrong with them that no one has adopted them!

Since you are such a wonderful parent who is an expert at raising wonderful children into perfect human beings how many of these desperate love-starved children have you taken into your home to care for?  Considering what you say about your age, maybe a 100 or so?

MM, you used the phrase "Right Wing extremism" and it got me to thinking.  What kind of parents do Right Wing extremist make and should they be allowed to adopt children?  I'm not being facetious but asking where are the limits. 

There are all kinds of people someone could question as being good parents.  How about people who are overweight?  How about people who aren’t the right color?  How about people too talk or too short?  How about people who have illnesses (I know there are some restrictions, but there could be more)?   How about people who wear too much jewelry?  How about someone who spends too much time on the computer ;-)

We can place all kinds of limits on who should be parents, but as long as there are more adoptable children than adoptees then why do we need to place more restrictions on who can adopt a child?

I remember a story I read about mothers in Haiti feeding their children mud pies because the mother’s had no food.  The children were dying of starvation.  Many of these children could be adopted.  As long as there are children like that how can we quibble over if gays can adopt?  IMO such a debate is irresponsible.

Aug 20, 2011 -- 8:25PM, mountain_man wrote:

They [right-wing extremist] do not make very good parents. There's a test that is almost 100% right. There is a baby, just been fed, has a clean diaper, is in no pain, but is crying. A Liberal will pick up and nurture the child. The "conservative" will say the baby has to learn to take care of itself. "Conservative" parents, the extremist ones, expect children to be miniature adults in their thoughts, emotions, and actions. That's a good way to produce a really screwed up kid.

IMO that is as offensive as what he said! 
     One of the most extreme Christian groups in the nation are the Amish.  Their children are seldom not held for the first three months of life.  I live in a very conservative county and the parents I know are for the most part very good parents.
     You simply can't say what liberal do or what conservatives do.  There are all kinds of people in all groups –good people, bad people, loving people, hateful people, reasonable people, unreasonable people.  Any time a poster says the _____s do... you have already lost the argument.  A group is filled with individuals.  They may agree on a few things, but you put two of them side-by-side and they will agree on a lot less than you think.
     Where is the link to a test you refer to?  Without that link your reference is meaningless.  Most people on forums know that.  I have been on forums/bulletin boards for 20 years and people out the just saying things without backing them up is pretty lame.  People can say anything and on forums be ready for someone to say “prove it”.

Aug 20, 2011 -- 8:25PM, mountain_man wrote:

Gays have been having, and raising, children for tens of thousands of years with no harm to any society.

I think that what some my not know is there are thousands if not hundreds of thousand (or more) BIOLOGICAL children of gay/lesbian people that were once married and try to be/act like they were straight.  That pressure is off a lot because it is now acceptable not get married soon out of school and not have children until later in life.