Gosh, marriage between people has never been about equality. It is about property. No equal anything.
A pair of folk wishing to commit to a life and share all of everything does not require a specific gender. It does not require a church, it does require legal crap which remains, property. Piece of paper, with a load of meaning only to the living.
One can call it a door knob, it is still property.
Seems to me she's worshiping false idols. Most of the things she did seems to be because her HUSBAND told her to do it. And she 'submitted' (aka obeyed) like a good "Christian" woman with no mind or will of her own. Then she says "the Lord" told her to do it. Seems to me she's confusing her husband (a human) for God.
Or being hyper traditional. Sarah did call Abraham her lord. True in a feudal sense in that case though.
This is true - and I see your point - (I really should go look at the video again - but I'm not up for being nauseous LOL) but I think she said "the Lord" (which imo implies the Christian deity) and not "my lord" which would imply a feudal lord. I almost made a comment on that, but the post started getting long and wordy - and a bit incoherent.
Just my opinion, but it seems to me that a Christian woman, who is not an equal partner in her marriage, but is under her husband's rule, has no business in political power.
Free I could not agree more. If she were elected it would be HIM that was really running things, since she must "submit=OBEY" her husband. Which means if he said lets declare war on anyone, she would have no choice but to agree.
If he said trash the constitution, she would have to try and do that. No matter how she feels about it. Of course I think she and her hubby think alike.
I believe in equal marriage, that means equality in the marriage and equality to marry regardless of gender
I guess a lot of people wanted to know if she would mind her husband or make her own decisions. Here is a blog post about the questions.
Most people do not see the world as it is. They see it as they are.
Wouldn't it be a nice world if those christians would just mind their own business? They all have hall monitor syndrome. The irony is-one pictures spending eternity with these types in christian heaven and immediately runs to the nearest non-christian religion.
Marriage is about love, not procreation or sex. By the logic I see in this thread, if a hetero couple gets married and doesn't have kids-they should be forced to lose their license; to get divorced. Just one example of how easy it is to poke a hole in the OP's selfish claims. Frankly, this thread is based on idiocy.
Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.
Seems to me she's worshiping false idols. Most of the things she did seems to be because her HUSBAND told her to do it. And she 'submitted' (aka obeyed) like a good "Christian" woman with no mind or will of her own. Then she says "the Lord" told her to do it. Seems to me she's confusing her husband (a human) for God.
Or being hyper traditional. Sarah did call Abraham her lord. True in a feudal sense in that case though.
This is true - and I see your point - (I really should go look at the video again - but I'm not up for being nauseous LOL) but I think she said "the Lord" (which imo implies the Christian deity) and not "my lord" which would imply a feudal lord. I almost made a comment on that, but the post started getting long and wordy - and a bit incoherent.
Just my opinion, but it seems to me that a Christian woman, who is not an equal partner in her marriage, but is under her husband's rule, has no business in political power.
I totally agree. All it serves is to fuel their hypocrisy.
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, While hammers fell like ringing bells In places deep, where dark things sleep, In hollow halls beneath the fells.
For ancient king and elvish lord There many a gloaming golden hoard They shaped and wrought, and light they caught To hide in gems on hilt of sword. - J.R.R. Tolkien
I can not imagine why a women, at least not a healthy woman with sense and a mind of her own, would vote for anyone, women or not that did not believe women are equal to men, in and outside of marriage.
I have no respect for any women who obeys her husband. but I have never been an obediaent person, even as a child. I would not fall for the lies and rhetoric. Made me unpopular with those desiring to control me.
A marriage style relationship requires minimum respect and consideration, Love requires those things as well. NOT obedience
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson
Free I could not agree more. If she were elected it would be HIM that was really running things, since she must "submit=OBEY" her husband. Which means if he said lets declare war on anyone, she would have no choice but to agree.
If he said trash the constitution, she would have to try and do that. No matter how she feels about it. Of course I think she and her hubby think alike.
I believe in equal marriage, that means equality in the marriage and equality to marry regardless of gender
Exactly! Forget the skeletons in her closet, it's (no pun or implication intended) HIS CLOSET that needs to be checked out - after all - she must obey him - therefore, her past and credentials are really irrelevant.
And I agree with you on marriage. It should consist of a partnership of 2 consenting adults regardless of how they match/pair up gender-wise. But it's obvious that the Bachmanns do not believe in marriage equality in any sense of the word. Why would any woman in her right mind vote for anybody, ESPECIALLY another woman, that believes wives should obey their husbands?
Most people do not see the world as it is. They see it as they are.
Seems to me she's worshiping false idols. Most of the things she did seems to be because her HUSBAND told her to do it. And she 'submitted' (aka obeyed) like a good "Christian" woman with no mind or will of her own. Then she says "the Lord" told her to do it. Seems to me she's confusing her husband (a human) for God.
Or being hyper traditional. Sarah did call Abraham her lord. True in a feudal sense in that case though.
This is true - and I see your point - (I really should go look at the video again - but I'm not up for being nauseous LOL) but I think she said "the Lord" (which imo implies the Christian deity) and not "my lord" which would imply a feudal lord. I almost made a comment on that, but the post started getting long and wordy - and a bit incoherent.
Just my opinion, but it seems to me that a Christian woman, who is not an equal partner in her marriage, but is under her husband's rule, has no business in political power.
Free I could not agree more. If she were elected it would be HIM that was really running things, since she must "submit=OBEY" her husband. Which means if he said lets declare war on anyone, she would have no choice but to agree.
If he said trash the constitution, she would have to try and do that. No matter how she feels about it. Of course I think she and her hubby think alike.
I believe in equal marriage, that means equality in the marriage and equality to marry regardless of gender
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson
I am struggling. I have the right, finally. I am not sure about this marriage thing.
Don't feel great to 'obey'.
This being gay thing, got me excommunicated from LDS. Got me tossed out of the military, got me out of house and home, 3 times. Beaten, raped and frankly not treated well...
Equality? Why marry? No equality. None.
Now I have the right, do I want it? Marriage = divorce,
I just got the paper work for Domestic Partnership. Oh no!
Do you straight people have to do all this or just kiss, get blood test and wait 3 days? Just to screw? Is that all you think about? Or do you read the fine print? Do you
have to prove you live together? Do you have to prove bills paid, and how the kids are cared for?
Equal? Um, no.
Are straight people asked who runs the household, BEFORE they are married? Kids, school, medical and food?
