Nov 5, 2010 -- 1:49PM, Palmtree0 wrote:

Nov 5, 2010 -- 12:59PM, Cryano wrote:

An example of how these myths contribute to a hateful attitude and a hate-filled society.

 Daphne from Scooby Doo

Oh, I agree..!! What mother could be so "hateful" to her son, and not have the common sense to say "NO" to her uneducated child. He's five..!! Of course he would not know why he shouldn't dress-up as Daphne..!! What a birdbrain this cute little boy has for a mom..!! Where is his DAD..??

Taught like this.

Thank you for making my point even clearer.

I rest my case.

"Correlation does not prove causation. I can easily show rude people exist in all walks of life and those people maintain various belief systems, does that make all of them and thier correlating belief systems promoters of hate because of thier attitudes/actions?"

You are conveniently (and deliberately?) forgetting that these myths PROMOTE an anti-gay attitude. That the believers in this stuff follow that injunction. And we see this often in the real world. Prop 8 in CA being only a recent example.

Your argument is essentially "so's your old man" and it is weak indeed. Because it ignores that YOUR "old man" was TAUGHT to hate and fear and told is was God's will.

One wonders if the poor kid'd get the same flak for wearing a Scooby Doo costume.  Does that means he likes dogs over people?  I mean, really, it's Halloween.  I thought it looked really good on him.  :)

This kid will probably end up going to conventions cosplaying.  I say go for it.

Palmtree0:  Oh, I agree..!! What mother could be so "hateful" to her son, and not have the common sense to say "NO" to her uneducated child. He's five..!! Of course he would not know why he shouldn't dress-up as Daphne..!! What a birdbrain this cute little boy has for a mom..!! Where is his DAD..??

I couldn't find in my little How to Do Halloween handbook where it says boys can't dress up as girls.  Costumes are, wait for it ...

COSTUMES!

One real fast way to teach this little boy how to hate, is to let him dress-up like a girl, and then send him out in public, to make a complete fool out of himself.

No, it teaches the kid that people will hate him for a harmless costume choice on a holiday ABOUT being someone else for a night.  He'll learn about hate, but it'll be coming from others.  Like I said, the kid could end up cosplaying for a living.  There can be money in that.

Thomas A Quinas:  Regarding the article, none of the gossiping moms ever verbalized any worry that the five-year-old would turn out gay.

The bitterness implies that they thought he was already "contaminated".

bigbear6161:  One of the most telling thing is that the article was written by the mother. I doubt any father would encourage that costume not because of any anti- gay sentiment but simply because being a male is an important and deeply spiritual spect of one's life.

But, again, why the gender hang-up?  When kids dress up as Optimus Prime or whatever we don't go around saying they want to muck with the truck, y'know?  Dressing as Scooby Doo doesn't make people think he wants to sleep with a dog.  In my opinion, it speaks more of the discomfort with one's own gender to suggest a mere costume will somehow drop your genitals to the floor.  I mean, unless this is an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, dressing up does not equal really being that thing you dressed up as.

There is a uniqueness to being a male, and men are the best ones to teach a boy how to be a male.

And women must teach boys why Daddy shouldn't be treating Mommy like a piece of meat.  Won't kill the kid to walk in another's shoes, even if they are elongate women's legs artificially and optically so that men can oggle us better.

Nov 5, 2010 -- 5:33PM, bigbear6161 wrote:

Look, I have nothing against gays and have spoke in favor of equal rights for gays both in the state and in the church. I have even stated my belief that there must be a sacramental homosexual option available in the church.

Yes, is called "celibacy".