| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 1:09PM #21 | |
Just taking the highlighted parts first; I did not always accept my homosexuality. I hid it in the darkness. I ran from it. I prayed hours upon hours that God would remove it from me. I went to church and pretended that I was okay, but everyone else there were straight and sinless, and they let me know over and over that if you are gay, you are going to hell. I realize now that if I hid my sexual orientation in the darkness, as many do, I would be lying. My sexual orientation is the truth of who I am. I now accept me just the way God created me.
Now that you are in the light, do you think those who do not think and/or believe as you do, are in darkness? Do you think you have a perfect understanding of scripture? |
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 1:51PM #22 | |
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(((REteach))) What a beautiful and brave opening post! Thank you. |
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 2:23PM #23 | |
I believe Jesus really rose from the dead, conquered sin and death, and will help me to obey Him, and I love what He did for me, I don't want to rationalize sexual immorality or other sins.
I have prayed intensely for things, and sometimes God's answer was wait or 'trust me' or -- no. When I've struggled with temptation of one kind or another, sometimes I was frustrated that I was still tempted, still falling short, and I lowered my standards, gave up. Now I see that as having a bad attitude, I was caving in to sin just because it wasn't easy to resist it.
For either me or you or them, the issue is to renounce the sin, repent, ask forgiveness of Jesus, and have faith in His mercy and grace, whether you are continuing to struggle or whether your feel better about it or not. Having temptations or one kind or another doesn't mean in and of itself that you are going to Hell.
I don't think it's everyone's business if I have a thought or feeling, a temptation for this or that. Such things do not define me. I don't hide my lack of a sex life from people.
I know that sex is just something a human being may do, and that the fantasies and thoughts are just there, wherever they tend to dwell, this way or that, and I am something much more than sex or the way my particular fantasies/thoughts/temptations manifest.
Are you? I know that I am a sinner. I do not fully love God with my whole heart, my whole mind, my whole soul, and I do not fully love my neighbor as myself. I know that when I abstain from this or that sin, I am just doing what I ought to have done consistently from the beginning, I am just an unprofitable servant. I need God's mercy and grace. Jesus died for my sins. I don't want to rationalize homosexual sex or greed or lack of charity or arrogance in the name of free grace and forgiveness, because when I believe in my heart that grace and forgiveness cost the precious blood of Jesus on the cross. |
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 2:31PM #24 | |
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Your first two responses were fine. They talked about you. But then you had to go into pride mode again and tell dblad that you know more about his faith And relationship with God than he does.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 2:44PM #25 | |
No where in my post did I speak of SEX. I only spoke of sexual orientation. I said I was gay, I did not say i had sex with anyone. Do you always think of SEX when you post about homosexuality? Jesus said that even our thoughts would be held against us. Anger is as bad as murder, He said, lust is as bad as adultery. Jesus said that unless our righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees we will certainly not enter the Kingdom. I can not speak for you or anyone else. I can only speak for myself. If you think I am a sinner because I am gay, then you sin by judging me. If you think you, yourself are a sinner, then you must repeant and pray for forgivness, but you cannot judge me by your conscience.
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 6:52PM #26 | |
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When a stray thought bubbles up, I try not to dwell on it if involves resentment, hatred, greed, lust, envy, etc. If I dwell, if the thought grows on my heart, I want to take a repentant attitude and pray about it. If I feel tempted, I want to pray to find a way out of the temptation. Sometimes such thoughts remind me that my heart is still such that I am vulnerable to sin, and I am reminded that it is by God's grace and mercy, not by my efforts to be perfect, that I have hope. |
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:04PM #27 | |
I don't think your problem has anything to do with sexual orientation. Perhaps you are a sex addict. At least that is what your post sounds like to me. You keep projecting your guilt and shame onto those you preceive to be gay. That will not work. I recommend you get help ASAP from a qualified sex therapist. |
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:16PM #28 | |
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I do not consider myself a sex addict. I do not want to dwell upon fantasies/thoughts/feelings/impulses which could make temptations stronger or which might condition me to minimize the sinfulness of sex outside of marriage, masturbation, porn, or gay sex. I understand certain things to be sins, and I don't want to make temptations stronger or set myself up to fall into sin. I take sin seriously. |
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 9:56PM #29 | |
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Where does the bible say masturbation is a sin?
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 31, 2010 - 10:08PM #30 | |
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When I decided to do what I could to avoid lust in my heart, I didn't want the continued practice of masturbation to encourage building up lust in my heart. I thought maybe I could masturbate without lust, but then I figured, why hold on to this, just to gratify my flesh for a short period of time, what's the point, why struggle with it. But I held to the ideal of not being a slave to my flesh, so I resisted, I became decisive, committed, and I stopped masturbating. Then I caved in and felt guilty some months later, but I didn't let myself feel demoralized and give up, and I didn't want to become tense and guilt-ridden on the subject. I repented, I prayed for God's peace and renewed commitment to resist indulging my flesh and/or encouraging lust. I reminded myself that my ability to follow this or that discipline can't save me, that God already knows I'm a sinner and died to forgive me of sins and cleans me of unrighteousness already while I was an enemy, and that I was to continue in faith, by God's grace. And so for many months I've found that my flesh doesn't tempt me to masturbate, it really didn't need to be that difficult for me, and so I'm less of a slave to my flesh in this area, thank God. |
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