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5 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2009 - 11:48AM #1
poolec2008
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Homosexual persons no less than heterosexual persons are individuals of sacred worth. All persons need the ministry and guidance of the church in their struggles for human fulfillment, as well as the spiritual and emotional care of a fellowship that enables reconciling relationships with God, with others, and with self. The United Methodist Church does not condone the practice of homosexuality and considers this practice incompatible with Christian teaching. We affirm that God's grace is available to all, and we will seek to live together in Christian community. We implore families and churches not to reject or condemn lesbian and gay members and friends. We commit ourselves to be in ministry for and with all persons.
  Certain basic human rights and civil liberties are due all persons. We are committed to supporting those rights and liberties for homosexual persons.

From The Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church - 2004. Copyright 2004 by The United Methodist Publishing House. Used by permission.




We see a clear issue of simple justice in protecting their rightful claims where they have shared material resources, pensions, guardian relationships, mutual powers of attorney, and other such lawful claims typically attendant to contractual relationships that involve shared contributions, responsibilities, and liabilities, and equal protection before the law.

Moreover, we support efforts to stop violence and other forms of coercion against gays and lesbians. We also commit ourselves to social witness against the coercion and marginalization of former homosexuals.

From The Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church - 2004. Copyright 2004 by The United Methodist Publishing House. Used by permission.

resources: http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?mid=1728, and http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?mid=1753
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2009 - 12:46PM #2
JonAtFaithUCC
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And...? 

(it'd be nice to know your own thoughts on this subject)
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2009 - 3:30PM #3
Sirronrex
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The United Methodist Church does not condone the practice of homosexuality and considers this practice incompatible with Christian teaching.


Please define "the practice of homosexuality".   I am a homosexual. I don't practice being a homosexual...I just am a homosexual.   What is it, specifically, that you find to be incompatible with Christian teaching?

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5 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2009 - 7:33PM #4
REteach
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The United Methodist Church does not condone the practice of homosexuality and considers this practice incompatible with Christian teaching.


Sorry, you can no more do this than say you don't condone blue eyes or red hair or lefthandedness, and then try to tell those with blue eyes or red hair or lefthandedness that you will try to love them anyway and overcome their unfortunate blue-eyed, redhaired, lefthandedness.

Not "condoning" innate characteristics is silly.  I suppose lots of pro-slavery people 200 years ago didn't condone dark skin either.

And, yes, sexuality is an innate orientation.  I never had to make a choice to be gay or straight, I just was what I was. The idea of "choosing" an orientation is so far beyond me, I can't even see it.

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 10, 2009 - 8:15PM #5
Cmurphy
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God will require all to be heterosexual when God makes "pigs fly".

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 13, 2011 - 3:41PM #6
Heisgod1
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John Wesley would be upset that the United Methodist Church is allowing homosexuals in the church to be openly gay and not repent. That's why I'm more of a free Methodist who is more of what John Wesley would be proud of not a United Methodist.!!!!

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2011 - 5:35AM #7
Free_2_b_me
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Apr 13, 2011 -- 3:41PM, Heisgod1 wrote:


John Wesley would be upset that the United Methodist Church is allowing homosexuals in the church to be openly gay and not repent. That's why I'm more of a free Methodist who is more of what John Wesley would be proud of not a United Methodist.!!!!





Well, John Wesley is only human, it shouldn't be what he wants even if he (and his brother Charles) were the founders of the Methodist movement. It's what God would want that truly matters, and I cannot fathom God being a bigot. Or is it your belief that John's motivation for founding the Methodist movement was so he could run things his way and not God's way?

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 08, 2011 - 12:56PM #8
mainecaptain
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very nice response Free

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