| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 12:32AM #1 | |
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After much deliberation, I have come to realize that my absolute hatred for all things pertaining to homosexuality is completely unfounded, by either ethics or reason. Yet this revelation has not help me be kinder or more accepting, it is almost like I hate homosexuals more afterwards. It is like I know on one level I am making my self sick stewing in hate (can't be good for you, no matter how you slice it), and yet on another I don't even care, but practically enjoy being malicious. So far, the problem is eating away at my relationships, and has begun to isolate me from my foster parents. Please help?
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 12:47AM #2 | |
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Hi, David Walker. First of all, I think it's great that you recognize that homophobia is "unfounded." I guess you just need to figure out where your particular hatred stems from--maybe a bad experience in your childhood? Or the views you were taught when you were younger? Or maybe you just think gay sex is really disgusting, and that image kind of sullies your view of gay people in general?
I honestly have no idea where you should begin, although, again, it's wonderful that you are trying. Maybe some of the older and more mature members on this board would be able to help you out. Good luck! -Ayla |
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 1:43AM #3 | |
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First and foremost, DW, I'd like to thank you for your honesty and your efforts.
I don't claim to have a ton of sage advice, so I apologize for that... I guess the only thing I can really offer up is to try looking more at the person. I'm not saying it'll be easy, but try to look past the sexuality. I think in many cases, you'll see that we gays are just people trying to make it through this crazy thing called life just like anyone else. We go to work, we pay our taxes, we buy groceries, drive, et cetera just like everyone else. I worry about the economy and global warming and crime and other issues just like a lot of other people. I watch football and rally racing and "Cops" with my straight roommate. I had to laugh a couple of weeks ago... One of my coworkers throws a big holiday bash every year at his house for the people from my department. Most people that I work with know I'm gay, and I don't try to hide it from anyone else. I was chatting it up with one of my coworkers. He was confused when I had no interest in going to the ladies night at some bar, so I told him that I'm gay, and his reply was one of disbelief. I finally had to show him the picture on my phone of my (now ex-) boyfriend and I together, to which he finally remarked that, "[He] never felt uncomfortable around me." Basically, it was an instance where he knew me as a person first, then was surprised because I was also gay. I suspect if he knew I was gay first, that he probably would have never talked to me at work. David, I hope for the best for you on this journey, and not just for my own sake. But, I think that, given that you've already set out, you'll make it. |
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 10:55AM #4 | |
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[QUOTE=david_walker;188881]After much deliberation, I have come to realize that my absolute hatred for all things pertaining to homosexuality is completely unfounded, by either ethics or reason. Yet this revelation has not help me be kinder or more accepting, it is almost like I hate homosexuals more afterwards. It is like I know on one level I am making my self sick stewing in hate (can't be good for you, no matter how you slice it), and yet on another I don't even care, but practically enjoy being malicious. So far, the problem is eating away at my relationships, and has begun to isolate me from my foster parents. Please help?[/QUOTE]
Are you afraid you are hating yourself?
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 2:34PM #5 | |
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[QUOTE=REteach;189495]Are you afraid you are hating yourself?[/QUOTE]
That would be my question. David, I don't want to freak you out or piss you off more, but it's a pretty common phenomenon that individuals who feel such strong hatred for homosexuals are internalizing homophobia due to fear of their own feelings. In any case, alymer is right - figuring out where these feelings comes from would be a good start. |
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 2:53PM #6 | |
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David;
Welcome. :) It takes courage to admit to feeling a certain way about different things that can raise an eye brow or two. Even greater courage to stay and get to know folks on a different level and really learn in a very safe forum here, so pull up a chair. I agree with the others that have answered so far. So I won't repeat it. I will encourage you to jump over to the Gay Community forum and get acquainted there. All are welcome and there is no debate, questions can be asked directly and issues raised with out the fear of being a targetand lesons the work load for our ((moderators)). The only 'cure' for any sociol irratioal fear is education. It starts with the beautiful person looking back at you in the mirror. You have just made a large step in managing your own dis ease. You admitted you have it, all you have to do is educate yourself, love the process, love yourself, and enjoy life . :) Dar |
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 3:07PM #7 | |
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The fastest way to strip away stereotypes and prejudices is get to know people on a personal level.
I'm married, straight and attend church....a church that opens the doors to all and says, "Everyone is welcome to the table." We have a number of gay members. These friends of mine have brains, creativity, talents and compassion...wow!....just like all others I know and care about. The same folks are always involved in one charitable project or another. We join in fellowship to administer to those in need...especially those marginalized by society. Two very cold nights ago, a group of us were setting up beds at the homeless shelter and serving a great dinner of chicken, green beans, salad , bicuits& gravy and some wonderful desserts. I doubt any of the dozen homeless men there thought about whether a gay person or two was amongst us. If they did, I doubt any would give a rat's behind. When we go about our lives living and loving abundantly, we pretty much don't have time to stew in hate. peace, sydney
Margaret Mead: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 4:01PM #8 | |
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David,
Congratulations on having the courage to self-examine old beliefs, and good for you that you have found no basis FOR the hatred. As to how to stop the hatred, you don't say if you are a religious/spiritual person. I assume you have an interest in things spiritual, so may I suggest you search out a welcoming worship community - the United Church, the Universalist-Unitarians, or even a Metropolitan Community Church. Another route to go would be finding a local chaper of P-FLAG (Parents, Family, Friends of Lesbians and Gays. They have siblings, children, etc. who are gay and have come to terms with it. They can share stories of how they learned and progressed, how their children have been hurt and harmed by the hatred in homophobia, and how their families grew closer because of it. Good luck on your journey. |
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 05, 2008 - 10:21PM #9 | |
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[QUOTE=david_walker;188881] After much deliberation, I have come to realize that my absolute hatred for all things pertaining to homosexuality is completely unfounded, by either ethics or reason. [/QUOTE]
you have made a GREAT first step. I am part of the opposition, so you may believe that this is true. But you need something that I don't quite have. Let's continue. [QUOTE=david_walker;188881]Yet this revelation has not help me be kinder or more accepting, it is almost like I hate homosexuals more afterwards. [/QUOTE] You NEED to be kinder! You have to be. Even though your mind tells you one thing, you must STRIVE to maintain balance. You can do this. [QUOTE=david_walker;188881]It is like I know on one level I am making my self sick stewing in hate (can't be good for you, no matter how you slice it), and yet on another I don't even care, but practically enjoy being malicious. So far, the problem is eating away at my relationships, and has begun to isolate me from my foster parents. Please help?[/QUOTE] Listen. You seem to be a good person. You can be a Christian and yet not be ON BOARD with this change. I myself am struggling with this issue but I WILL listen! I WILL strive! I will constantly profess my Christian beliefs in the disagreement with homosexuality...BUT...not at the expense of being less than Christian to those whom do not meet my STANDARDS. We are all of the same side and God help us if we fail in our Christian mission. Good luck and God bless you in your difficult time. Grace and peace, datinker |
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| 5 years ago :: Jan 06, 2008 - 1:31AM #10 | |
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REteach,
"Are you afraid you are hating yourself?" To one extent, I am worried about it. Three years back I had an experience with an old room-mate, but he moved out shortly and I have sense gotten over it. Is there any way to know for sure whether or not I subconsciously despise myself? |
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