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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 10:37AM #1
Grinandbearit
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Overstepping his authority?


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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 10:41AM #2
Hatman
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Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:37AM, Grinandbearit wrote:

Overstepping his authority?


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At the Last Supper, Christ specifically forbade His disciples the exercise of either authority OR dominion---so yep, this guy's actively disobedient to Christ.

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 10:44AM #3
Girlchristian
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I don't know if he's overstepping his bounds or not. As a Christian, if I were married, I would likely not have a FB account or my spouse would at least have password access to my account (and I his). In my bible study, all the married couples have joint FB accounts to make each other feel safe (many of them, in fact, have joint email accounts).

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 10:44AM #4
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If your marriage falls apart due to reconnecting, you've got problems quitting Facebook can't fix!


 


 


 


 

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 10:46AM #5
Girlchristian
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Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:44AM, Grinandbearit wrote:


If your marriage falls apart due to reconnecting, you've got problems quitting Facebook can't fix!


 


 


 


 




Maybe, but we're all human and it's easy to be tempted. Having a rough patch with the spouse and then all of a sudden an old flame is showing you attention...it could be easy to start thinking "would my life have been different with X" or end up in an emotional affair if not a physical affair.

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 10:57AM #6
Christianlib
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Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:46AM, Girlchristian wrote:


Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:44AM, Grinandbearit wrote:


If your marriage falls apart due to reconnecting, you've got problems quitting Facebook can't fix!


 


 


 


 




Maybe, but we're all human and it's easy to be tempted. Having a rough patch with the spouse and then all of a sudden an old flame is showing you attention...it could be easy to start thinking "would my life have been different with X" or end up in an emotional affair if not a physical affair.




 


But, as noted, the problem is not Facebook.  The wrongdoing is not an action of the inanimate Facebook.


 


BTW, Mrs. Lib and I BOTH have FB accounts, and we each can see everything the other says and does.  Honesty in a marriage does not begin or end with a web site.

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 11:04AM #7
Girlchristian
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Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:57AM, Christianlib wrote:


Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:46AM, Girlchristian wrote:


Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:44AM, Grinandbearit wrote:


If your marriage falls apart due to reconnecting, you've got problems quitting Facebook can't fix!


 


 


 


 




Maybe, but we're all human and it's easy to be tempted. Having a rough patch with the spouse and then all of a sudden an old flame is showing you attention...it could be easy to start thinking "would my life have been different with X" or end up in an emotional affair if not a physical affair.




 


But, as noted, the problem is not Facebook.  The wrongdoing is not an action of the inanimate Facebook.


 


BTW, Mrs. Lib and I BOTH have FB accounts, and we each can see everything the other says and does.  Honesty in a marriage does not begin or end with a web site.




No, the problem isn't Facebook, but Facebook is the tool that allows one to connect after so many years. There are many "friends" on Facebook that I wouldn't have ever talked to again if it weren't for them finding me and sending a friend request. I suspect that this Pastor would also have something to say about married people hanging out in bars (without their spouse) or any other tool that would lead to temptation.




"No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible." George Chakiris

“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” Stuart Chase
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 11:05AM #8
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This guy is way out of bounds, and what he's asking is ridiculous.  Marriages need to have trust, and if having a Facebook account creates a trust issue, there was already a trust issue that needed to be addressed before Facebook ever came into the picture.  If a person can't handle the temptation of being contacted by an old flame on Facebook, they could no more handle it if they happened to bump into that old flame in a coffee shop.  Again, not a Facebook problem...a marriage problem that needs to be dealth with regardless. 


This is like taking cough syrup to treat pneumonia.  No, it requires antibiotics.  Treating the symptom isn't going to make the core problem go away.  It's only going to mask the symptoms and let the problem continue to grow. 

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 11:07AM #9
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Nov 18, 2010 -- 11:04AM, Girlchristian wrote:


Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:57AM, Christianlib wrote:


Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:46AM, Girlchristian wrote:


Nov 18, 2010 -- 10:44AM, Grinandbearit wrote:


If your marriage falls apart due to reconnecting, you've got problems quitting Facebook can't fix!


 


 


 


 




Maybe, but we're all human and it's easy to be tempted. Having a rough patch with the spouse and then all of a sudden an old flame is showing you attention...it could be easy to start thinking "would my life have been different with X" or end up in an emotional affair if not a physical affair.




 


But, as noted, the problem is not Facebook.  The wrongdoing is not an action of the inanimate Facebook.


 


BTW, Mrs. Lib and I BOTH have FB accounts, and we each can see everything the other says and does.  Honesty in a marriage does not begin or end with a web site.




No, the problem isn't Facebook, but Facebook is the tool that allows one to connect after so many years. There are many "friends" on Facebook that I wouldn't have ever talked to again if it weren't for them finding me and sending a friend request. I suspect that this Pastor would also have something to say about married people hanging out in bars (without their spouse) or any other tool that would lead to temptation.








 


You can't possibly think of all the ways and all the situations that will get dishonest people in trouble.

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2010 - 11:07AM #10
Cesmom
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Nov 18, 2010 -- 11:04AM, Girlchristian wrote:


No, the problem isn't Facebook, but Facebook is the tool that allows one to connect after so many years. There are many "friends" on Facebook that I wouldn't have ever talked to again if it weren't for them finding me and sending a friend request. I suspect that this Pastor would also have something to say about married people hanging out in bars (without their spouse) or any other tool that would lead to temptation.





I disagree.  Temptation is a symptom of a bigger issue.  Removing the temptation does nothing to resolve the actual issue.

Our need to learn should always outweigh our need to be right

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

More people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them.
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