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Switch to Forum Live View How do you let go of the only soulmate experience of your life?
3 years ago  ::  Sep 02, 2010 - 6:29AM #11
Myownpath
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If two people do not connect, It is not a match even if the timing is wrong.


Now is the time to be more loving to yourself and create opportunities for healing and strengthening yourself. I listen to your words and there are tones of neediness and a search for validation outside of yourself. My guess is that it is not "he" who is not ready, but you are giving off "broken/hurt" vibes. Move on and no longer obsess over him. It is the IDEA of him that you are drawn to - he fit your fantasy. I have not heard anything regarding common interests, similar focus on long range goals, shared joy and comradery, share confidence. 


Men and women fantasize differently. For men it is primarily sexual for women, we create a whole scenario. Sometimes it can sound like a soap opera.  It usually involves a house, moving in together, having a garden and a couple of dogs, and he helps out, but there is this problem that maybe he has a wooden leg or something. Read teenage letters to celebrities or most chick flicks say Sleepless in Seattle. Women think this way, so recognize that this is a fantasy and not a vision.


Do you ultimately want a relationship to be fun, mutual giving, prosperous? (If your seeing a relationship being someone who will help you, rescue you ------Ugh. That's alot to dump on a guy.)
Think of what you want. Now create a vision of you having those things with yourself alone. Have fun on your own, become prosperous, etc.  Could it be that you are trying to find someone who will love you when what you really crave is self-love?

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 02, 2010 - 8:01PM #12
waterwheel
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My Own Path,


Interesting food for thought.  Thank you.   I did not explain the full situation as carefully as I might because I was focused on a "psychic" impression/vision I had 14 years ago that did not feel like "fantasy" because it was not consciously imagined or anywhere on my horizon of possibilities at that time to fantasize about.  At least the way I define it for myself, fantasy contains a seed of reality to be imagined.


Shared interests do exist.  I admire him for many things he has accomplished in his life and he admires me for many things I have in mine, though these are different things.   


We continue to communicate in writing, me broken in some ways, him broken in others.  Aren't we all broken?  And I don't know if I agree with timing wrong (or not ideal) means no connection.  I have heard and read many stories of happy couples who met at some inopportune time originally only to flourish later.


I have given a lot of thought to the idea I see in many self-help books about partnership that we need to have all our ducks in a row before we are "ready" to be loved.  To be propsperous in every way before we are able to be in healthy connection with another human being.  I don't buy that.  Self-reliance and self-love are fabulous and essential.  Yet if each individual was truly able to be 100% self-reliant and self-loving, how would humans ever need one another?  Does this really have to be in order to make a successful partnership?  Are there some things we can learn about ourselves and life that we can only learn in relationship?  I have struggled with this, because I have been fiercely independent and kept people away for most of my adult life.  Can't 2 people nurture one another with differing strengths the other may lack?  I am not talking about a completely lopsided codependence but more wondering whether it is possible for 2 broken people to heal simultaneously with one another and alone.


Erin

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 03, 2010 - 7:20PM #13
Myownpath
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Then give it time, take care of yourself.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2010 - 12:48AM #14
MarleneEmmett5
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Waterwheel:
I found my soulmate when we were in highschool together 42 years ago~he was the
most popular guy in school and I was a mouse. He looked like Jan Michael Vincent when
he was in "Airwolf blond hair,cornflower blue eyes,tall and really sexy.
It all began when a mutual friend came up to me and said "HBP wants to go out with you"~
I told this friend "Steph, cut the crap HPB doesn't want to go out with me".
We were standing in the lobby of the school in a group of friends when he came over, put his
arm around me and then kissed me infront of all my friends!! I wanted to die~I wished that
the damn floor would open up and swallow me whole~ I was so embarrassed.
Something happeded 42 years ago that made me swear I would never deliberately hurt him
in any way~ But I did. I kept something from him for 38 years till one week ago.
I shouldn't have~ I should have told him sooner. It was his every right to know~ but I thought by not telling him that I'd aborted our son that I was sparing him such horrid pain.
But in reality I was only causing him more pain when he found out.
But I never expected to receive the reaction I got~ I thought he'd yell and be so mad that he
never would want to even talk to me or see me ever again~ but what I've gotten instead is
his love and forgiveness for being "totally honest with him now"
I finally got something that I've wanted for 24 years~ He wants to talk.
Face to face, not over phone lines but making eye contact.
I'm going to bring loads of tissues~ as I know just looking into those eyes of his I'm going
to be seeing lots of pain~pain that I put there.
I have told him that there's one thing I really need from him~ I need his arms around me,
I know that if he can do that then I'll know I'm forgiven.
Could I ever let him go?
That's not going to happen~ this man suffers from clinical depression,and he's a recovering
Alcholic and an emotional eater.


I feel that I'm the light in his tunnell when he needs a "Safe port in a storm",
I'll always be her for him~any time any day,and any year~ any certury.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2010 - 12:44PM #15
dio
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Yes I believe in soulmates. Perhaps a matchmaker would help.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 05, 2010 - 9:04PM #16
Weepingangelofthetrees
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If we're all souls living a human experience, we're all soul mates.


"Remember, Jesus would rather constantly shame gays than let orphans have a family."
Stephen Colbert
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 05, 2010 - 11:18PM #17
waterwheel
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I suppose we ARE all soul mates in the Australian sense of "mates," but there are souls all swimming around in the fish tank of life and then there are "soul mates" meaning complementary matches for one another as life partners .  


I really would like to understand more about what triggers these sort of experiences of "instant recognition" of a person on first meeting as if we have known them for years or lifetimes.   I mean, that doesn't happen every day, and even if it ends up not resulting in a lasting connection, I wonder a) why are they so powerful, and b) what can we learn from them?


My original post connection is unraveling for me anyway, and I have decided to take a good hard look at what exact characteristics/qualities I admire in this person and try to incorporate more of them into my own life.  The self love and prosper thing.  However, I still firmly believe people do not need to be perfect or 100% self-loving and accepting in order to have a fulfilling relationship.   We are all broken in some ways, all have different strengths, all need to feel needed and have opportunities to give deeply.


As far as matchmaking - I've been at online dating for years off and on.  Are there any matchmakers out there who do not charge exorbitant fees?  Most of the online dating services that do any screening whatsoever are prohibitive, and in the meantime I use the free services in which I seem to attract folks who have no compatibility whatsoever (other than being another lonely soul in the sea of life).


Erin

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 3:02PM #18
Uniquesingle
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Waterwheel! I have good news for you, and answers to your questions. I think that it is amazing when two people who aren't complete connect, but only when they are both honest about their weaknesses and willing to seek the proper help to get complete. I have had many gfs and have gotten very connected with some of them, one I never really have gotten over. That doesn't mean that we are soul mates or that we should marry, if I had it my way that would be the case, but hey, I can't change her mind, nor can I change the past. So, if you are having trouble getting over someone, that is normal, it just means that you had a deep connection and it is also very typical to always remember your first love the most, and miss them the most. I think most people have that same situation, where they have this almost permanent connection with their first bf or gf, especially if they married or made love.


I personally believe that you need to get around positive people. Nevermind online matchmaking! Phooey! I'd rather get my butt grabbed on the bus or get a dirty look at church (I'm sort of good-looking so that happens a lot). So, what I suggest is, make lots of friends, but not too many, and if you can afford it spend hundreds of dollars on skin care, like dead sea products work for me (it works, trust me!), buy nice clothing, not necessarily expensive but nice, and get connected with groups and clubs with positive people, and you will meet the man of your dreams that will blow you out of the water, and make you wonder why you bothered missing this man so much. Have fun! There are many great people who are just as wonderful if not more wonderful than this man who sounds awesome who you miss. I hate to brag, but I'm an expert at the dating game. I know how to be popular in an hour in any place, and I get dirty looks just from sitting and looking good, and I can get almost any hot girl I want. So it is from that that I tell you, my advice is from a good source. Best of luck!

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 3:41AM #19
Abbiejan
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Hello,


I am trying to get beyond an attachment to the man i know is my soulmate. I truly feel we have met in previous passings and this is the closest we have ever gotten to making our love a reality. But, life's circumstances have made that reality elusive.


Soooo.. I read these posts with great interest and want to let you all know that I also benefited from the advice and compassionate words you gave to Waterwheel on her journey toward love.


I hope that one day my heart will heal from loving someone so deeply but never having them completely.  Time heals all wounds... and the deepness of this heart-wound is making for a long recovery.


in kindness - abbie

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