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4 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2009 - 3:50PM #1
Cbl0419
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Hello all. I am new to this site and I am glad I found it. Hopefully I can get some advice/support out of it all because that is what I am looking for. I am a 30 year old male married to the same woman for 6 years. It is my first marriage and we have been together for a total of 10 years. I met her when I was 20 and we got married when I was 24. Recently there have been some issues that has put a heavy weight on my shoulders and allot of stress in my life. About a month ago, I stumbled upon a check written to a strange loan place as I was reviewing our accounts. Our account was negative on top of it all which is why I was reviewing it to begin with. I called my wife to ask why the account was overdrawn and to ask about the check. That was the beginning of what was to be a long rough road. After talking with her, she had informed me that she had gotten us into allot of debt. She had been addicted to pain pills for two years without me knowing. As it turns out, over the course of two years of taking pain pills, she had taken out several loans and maxed out credit cards to be able to purchase these pills. To the tune of $50,000+. I was shocked. If you knew my wife, you would have been as well as she is the last person I would have imagined to do this. She ended up going to rehab daily without my knowledge for the past few months. She is taking a medication that deters her desire for pain medication which allows for her to attend a daily rehab session as opposed to staying overnight. She did this without telling me because she thought I would be angry and not support her. After learning about what she was doing on a regular basis, I am so glad to still have her here. It could have been much worse. I am proud of her for attending rehab on her own and having the will power to follow through as well. I will say however, I am still upset by the debt as this has turned our lives upside down and created a major problem for us financially. We were even in the process of going to a fertility clinic trying to have a baby but now we cannot do that because we dont have the money. This created a very stressful next few weeks for us. I was trying my best to work on this and forgive her and try to continue our lives together when I was hit with the next major blow from her.


Just last week, as we were heading to South Carolina for a friends wedding on the beach, the night before we were supposed to leave, I stumbled across another major disappointment. For a long time she has been staying up late, away from me, in the garage, with her laptop. I have always made comments to her about this and have always tried to get her to come in and hang out with me. I never would have thought I would have to beg my wife for her attention. But in this one instance, upon going out into the garage to ask her a question, I found her online talking with other guys.  I am not perfect by any means, and admit, I have viewed inappropriate things online before, however, she was on a instant messenger talking directly with guys, most of which were from the same area as we are. One of the biggest problems with this right off the bat was, just a week prior, she said she had to get away and she ended up going to stay at a hotel room in the area. I did not question it at the time because she has been through allot in the past several months. Her Uncle passed away, she had a medical problem that came out of nowhere, and her mother had just been rushed to the hospital with some heart complications. But now, this is raising serious doubts on why she went to a hotel. I immediately went in and deleted her chat profile, and we had a long discussion about it. She said she would not do it anymore. I tried to put this all aside for the trip but, after arriving at our destination, I noticed she had installed the same messenger on her cell phone afterwards, with a message that was sent out to the same guys, telling them what her new profile was. In that same time, I uncovered several other things on her computer. Pictures of herself, a profile on an adult dating site with webcam access, and a profile that read like she was single and was seeking a sexual relationship with others. She has insisted that it was all platonic and it was a "virtual" world that she resorted to because she felt like I didn't think she was attractive anymore and  I wasnt sexually active with her. I was deeply saddened at that point and, I am usually a pretty strong person when it comes to emotions but I broke down at that point crying my heart out to her. I explained my love for her and asked why she continues to hurt me and lie to me and she cried with me, eventually leaving me to think maybe she finally realized what she was doing.


By the end of the trip, at the wedding reception, I noticed her texting allot on her cell phone. Keeping in mind that during our "heart to heart" conversation the night before, she stated she was done with that and she would not reach out to those individuals again. She also stated she would never call them even though they had sent her their phone numbers. As she stepped away from the table and left her phone behind, I picked up her phone and began to look at her texts. Come to find out, she had three numbers saved under her girlfriends names, that ended up being two of the guys she found online and one guy that was her ex boyfriend. She had been texting them all and after looking at the phone records, she had even called them a few times. This was it for me. I quickly got up from the table, and left her behind going back to my hotel room. She had lied to me about her involvement throughout the entire trip and had been talking with other guys the whole time as well, some even while I was right there beside her. I was and still am heartbroken and feel like less of a man because of it. Our marriage is now in shambles and I constantly feel paranoid everytime she used the phone, gets on the computer, or leaves the house. It is like a disease that I cannot seem to shake and I dont know if the feeling will ever go away. To top it all off, her adult dating profile is still set up and she has been on it a couple of times even after we have gotten back from vacation. I am so hurt and lost I do not know what to do. She was and still is the love of my life and she is the last person I would have ever thought would do something like this. I have never believed in divorce and have always prided myself in our marriage compared to that of others but I just dont know if there is anyway around it now. I am hurt, lost, confused, paranoid, angry, sad, depressed, etc. I just need support and prayer at this time. I am sorry for the long post, but there was way too much and it is all relevant to me. Thanks for taking the time to read.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2009 - 4:41PM #2
ArnieBeeGut
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Cbl0419,

Welcome to the Divorce & Separation Forum, and sorry for the pain you have have been experiencing in your marriage. Although the forum has been slow lately, you will find that the members here are very caring and will be glad to share their thoughts with you. Some may feel right, and some may noYt - take what feels right and leave the rest.

Please know that your feelings are completely natural and understandable. Not only is the texting and communicating with other men an affront to the marriage boundaries, what you have been told has not been accurate.

You obviously love your wife very deeply and care a great deal for her. You have been very loving and forgiving in the responses to what has happened; and yet it still continues. What perhaps hurts even more is that you have been told one thing and another thing happens - like being told that the texting will stop and yet it continues. You are so surprised and confused by all of this, and are finding it hard to understand why behavior like this is happening. Perhaps you feel you have no choice but to continue to accept what you are told without question. As difficult as it is to accept, perhaps you are coming to the realization that the message being sent is that there is not a desire to continue in the marriage, and part of you is fighting that realization.

Had there been areason to be taking pain mdeicdation in the first place, some surgery perhaps? If so, then maybe part of the difficulty has been processing the feelings that came up over that. Since fertility treatments were mentioned, there have been attempts to have children that have not been successful. That may be a difficult pill for a woman to swallow (so to speak) and could be a factor in thinking of oneself as not being fully a "woman." None of this of course excuses unacceptable behavior, although sometimes it helps to understand the underlying causes.

It is easy to tell you you should end the marriage - and indeed that is a very likely outcome of all of this. However, perhaps there is a part of you that wants to find a way to salvage the marriage, reconnect, and find a way to trust again and have the loving relationship you once had.

I wish you all the best in this painful time.

Blessings,
ArnieBeeGut
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4 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2009 - 7:39PM #3
Cbl0419
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ArnieBeeGut,


Thank you for your response. Just reading what you said helps a little. As far as the reason she was taking pain medication, she started off taking them just for pleasure. However, with that said, she tells me she took them for pleasure and got even deeper into taking them because she did not feel support for anything from me. She tells me I blow her off or don't understand when something is wrong with her. She has really been bothered in the past by my inability to cope with any medical conditions she may have and thinks I do not support her much. I can understand that, but at the same time, now in hindsight, I think in my head, how much of what she always had wrong with her was for pain medication. I may be wrong for thinking that but I can't shake the thought. It is no exaggeration that she was "sick" or had other medical needs for attention way more than the normal person. Keeping that in mind, I always had a gut feeling sometimes there really wasn't anything wrong with her and she was doing it for pain pills. Even though I didn't know that, and I feel completely stupid for not noticing it now, I had the feeling in the back of my mind. She has also stated I havent showed her affection in the past and I'll be the first one to admit, there were times that she came to me wanting a kiss or a hug, or sex even, but I told her I didn't want to because she would smell like heavy cigarette smoke. I have urged her to quit for sometime because she smokes allot. She has told me she will time and time again but never does. It is a major turn off for me to smell a woman that heavily covered in smoke. She knows I feel this way about it but doesn't understand why I wouldn't want to be affectionate then.


As for the fertility, that has been a major blow to both of us. We both wanted a child so bad and cannot seem to have one. We went through several different treatments only to be let down each time. We eventually took time off before our next step in the treatment process but now with the debt we are in, if we stay together, we could resume that process even if we wanted to. Sex became an issue at that point as well as it seemed like more of a job everytime we tried.


We have both been through allot but regardless, I feel I have lost my trust and with the feeling and emotions I now have stuck in my head, and the paranoid feeling I have as well, I don't know that I will ever get that feeling of trust back. Just in the last day or two I have already found myself questioning every move she makes and it's become something I just cant help.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2009 - 8:10PM #4
ArnieBeeGut
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While there may be an element of truth to feeling unsupported leading to taking pain medication, there is no reason to accept blame for her choices. So while she did feel unsupported, and based on what has been written, there may have been good reason, that still does not change the fact that it was a choice to take the pills.

It is tough living with a smoker when it is such a turn-off to you. As addictive as it is, maybe it was too hard for her to quit. And if continuing also meant not having affection and physical intimacy, it is understandable that she felt the need for it. Again, which does not justify infidelity in any way, just helps understand. If there is a chance for healing, understanding is key, because this issue would need to be addressed to a mutually acceptable resolution.

Without trust there is no relationship. If you will be spending the rest of your time together wondering who she is talking with or what she is doing, neither one of you will be happy. At this point it is probably hard to believe that you will ever reach a point of trusting again - and given all that has happened, there is no reason to believe anything you are told, since so many promises have been broken. Not being able to give up a highly addictive drug like cigarettes is one thing; continuing to text, flirt, and pose as a single is quite another.

At this point, perhaps you are on the fence about whether you even want to try to save the marriage at all.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 30, 2009 - 2:50PM #5
Cbl0419
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Again, thank you for your response and open heart. She is going to a counselor today that she has been seeing before but this is the first time since all of this. I am going on Monday to see one as well. HOpefully both of these visits will shed some light and bring clarity to our relationship and where we need to go from here.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 30, 2009 - 7:47PM #6
ArnieBeeGut
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Best of luck with all the work. It is quite a challenge to look at oneself under "normal" circumstances, and especially difficult when there has been such an upheaval in your marriage. I wish you both all the best - please keep us updated as to how you are doing!

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 12:39AM #7
Cretired
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I hav been married, divorce, remarried, seperated, put in for a divorce just last year to the same man. I feel like I am on a roller coaster. My situation now is, I am still married and his cheating, lies, manipulation has gotten worse. I am 52 and he is too, but he acts like he is 18 years old. Every time I try to divorce him he makes it so hard on me mentally. He even cause me to retired early because he told my employer that I tried to kill him. Which was one hundred percent wrong. Since, I didn't have a job or health insurance I had no alternative but to come back home. Now he hardly stay at home, he is seen openly with this 33 year old women. I have two daughters which is 28, and 29. It is embrassing for them for their father to b carrying on like he has been doing. Someone please write back and give me a peace of mind. I have and continuing to pray for my situations. I also have found out that he is involved with several other women.

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 8:41PM #8
ArnieBeeGut
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Cretired,

Welcome to the Divorce & Separation Forum, and sorry for the ongoing pain in your marriage. Although things have been slow here lately, there are a number of very caring members who are happy to give feedback about the situation.

Even though you have tried to end the marriage, you keep getting talked back into it. Since the behavior that causes problems continues, perhaps you feel that you have no other options but to tolerate it, especially since you have no other place to live.

Blessings,
ArnieBeeGut
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