| 5 months ago :: Jun 28, 2009 - 4:21PM #1 | |
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I have a book called His Needs, Her Needs. It's from 1986, and I was really floored to open it up and read what the author considers his needs and her needs. The author suggests her needs are affection, conversation, her husband to be a good father, to be able to trust him, and financial support. The author suggests he needs sex, recreational companionship, attractive wife, peace and quiet (domestic support) and admiration. I nearly fell off my chair when I read this....needless to say I do not think these apply so much to my relationship(s). For example, I've always made my own money, so I don't need him to support me financially. Are these the needs that you have found apply to your marriage? If not, what needs might there be? Are you aware of your spouse's needs and have you asked if you are meeting them? |
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| 5 months ago :: Jun 28, 2009 - 5:14PM #2 | |
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Hi Anesis, Tuff topic huh? I think americans are the only nation on earth that has a hard time discerning between needs and wants. I seemed to have to go through some life changing phases, divorce, unemployment, relocation, to realize exactly what needs are versus wants. Spiritually and emotionally I wanted a mate that had the same love for Jesus that I did. When I found that person we both turned the needy part over to him. His love is the boundaries for our relationship. And we seem to have had more than our needs met. My wife and I both help each other out. It's a partnership that based on acceptance, love, and faith that comes from God. And when we get into that craving of desires we bounce off of each with love, humor and fun. However to much time spent at the well of craving can lead one to think a want is a need. God has always provided for me everything I need and the bonus of a few well earned wants. We both need more of God, and less of ourselves. It seems like he revitalizes the need to give and share and that is the essence of love in our relationship. What I usually think I want isn't always good for me. So I back pedal. What my wife wants is yep more of me and so that cave of self I like to hide out in has it's skull and cross bones on the wall. Thanks for the topic and call to look inward. Andy
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| 5 months ago :: Jun 28, 2009 - 9:37PM #3 | |
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If you found a 1966 book shocking, you should try some of the books from the early 1900"s! |
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| 5 months ago :: Jun 29, 2009 - 8:13AM #4 | |
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I agree that ultimately we have human needs, not male or female needs. We all want to feel loved and cared for and important to another person. Some people are bigger talkers than others. Some are more interested in sex than others. Some are bigger socializers, but ultimately feeling that someone cares about you is, IMO, an across the board need.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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| 5 months ago :: Jun 29, 2009 - 8:52AM #5 | |
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I think women have evolved, men have not. If you listen to men, read what they rwrite (Read Denis Leary's Why We Suck), you will have plenty of evidence that many, if not most, men do fit those stereotypes. I fit some of it. I like affection, trustworthiness. However, I am financially independent and most women I know are. In fact, I know a lot of women who financially support the men in their lives because the men could not find their niche. I don't have a problem with that. It isn't because the men didn't try. Women who I know succeeded in marriage tend to play by those stereotypical roles. A lot of studies done today confirm those roles and meet the superficial needs that men have. Supposedly, there are all these exceptions in men. I don't see many of them. No one I know has such an exception. I have dated a couple but in 50 years on the planet, there were only a couple. Listen to men. Read what they write. See what they do. Believe them. They, really do, mean it. Romance is not a hollywood chick flick. You will find more variations in women because for the first time in history women have choices. Men have always had choices. They are not going to change much. |
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| 5 months ago :: Jul 01, 2009 - 1:39AM #6 | |
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"Writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear" "No one came near" All the lonely people where do they all come from. Beatles
Thought I would throw this into that spirit of independence.. Oh yeah there is a dark side to it.
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| 5 months ago :: Jul 01, 2009 - 1:19PM #7 | |
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I like to take long, hot baths. In the summer, I run around barefoot and my feet get dirty, which makes the bathtub dirty. My husband cleans it for me, out of love.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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| 4 months ago :: Jul 06, 2009 - 12:11PM #8 | |
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"Thought I would throw this into that spirit of independence.. Oh yeah there is a dark side to it." Not really. That song is based on the sexist assumption that women cannot have a life if they don't have a man. |
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| 4 months ago :: Jul 06, 2009 - 7:41PM #9 | |
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Oh what a wonderful topic. I love both of your posts. I'm rather old now and been here and there and never really found it, whatever that means. Knew someone once that could have been what I've heard called a soul mate but I am married and have never cheated so our friendship remained that way and soon he died. Some said it was from a broken heart. That does haunt me but I could have done nothing. I'm married to a man that if you tell him what you like or would wish of him...he does the opposite. Been that for all the years we've been married. I just keep my thoughts and wishes to myself these days and just follow. My time will come. I believe that... Karen |
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| 4 months ago :: Jul 07, 2009 - 6:10PM #10 | |
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Myself and the lovly msPj are the exceptional couple, we threw away those stereotypical defintions before we were married. We have no heiarchy, no pecking order. We have what's called a peer marriage! Yes, there is such a thing! It exists today for us because we both believe strongly in equality, between genders, races, ethnicity's, as well as individual people. Stuck in a marriage that isn't a peer marriage? Sorry to say we dont know of any who've been transformed. We both left marriages that were not suitable to our needs personally, and when we met later and discussed our needs, desires, dreams and wishes. We found that we were a perfect match ( if there is such a thing)! Most importantly we found that we loved married life, but had each found from experience that it must be with the right person! With no judgement whatever we both acknowlege that people change in the course of a marriage, we both had. But when people change within a marrage they either grow together or apart. Married life with a person who does not also desire this equality, or who will not come to center for the marriage, is part of a marriage not worth living with . Get out of it and seek what your heart desires, do it now! No matter what the cost! For all we know this one life is all there is! Perhaps it's not, but we dont really know, do we? We live married life like it matters above all else! We think and believe it does! Good Luck! seeking your hearts desire! dusty and msPJ Ps, Below is the Snake River near Teton National Park, from an early photo journey this year!
Be the change you want to see in this world
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