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5 years ago  ::  Feb 01, 2008 - 7:19PM #11
Hatman
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Nefertity wrote:

You guys are so right. I've left it alone and didn't contact him. SO this is the update! Almost two weeks ago I got a message. Nothing serious just apologizing for not being in contact and that there are many reasons why that is. He's stated that he misses home (didn't state whether he misses me though) and that he's had so many experiences to tell me about but doesn't want to do it over the email.


Ah!  First, voila!  It works!  Second, I suspect that he was trying to keep it light and breezy so you wouldn't suspect how much he really did miss you.

[QUOTE] I ignored the email, since it made me really angry. He ignored me for a good few months and now he's close to coming home he emails me? Since I've been busy it didn't even bother me, but he sent an email to a friend of ours (the one that set up us up on our first date, actually) and told her that he missed me and that even thinking about not having spoken for so long "makes him want to cry".[/QUOTE]

And you've not returned the email for 2 weeks?  That's a mighty good plan, however, in his heart he knows he hurt you, and doesn't to admit to that.  Your not replying is worrying to him, and possibly even scaring him that you've found another.  Letting him worry will be a good thing.  Also, it's possible that he didn't want to talk to you or write to you for fear of the emotional pain of not being able to see or hold you.

[QUOTE] I don't know what the hell this means. I don't even know what the hell he wants. I don't know whether I'm supposed to email him back or even what I'm supposed to say. Why did he tell our friend that and send me a completely blasé message? How am I supposed to react to that?![/QUOTE]

Well, I'd say he wants YOU, but is afraid to admit this, afraid that you'll see it as a weakness.  If you DO decide to email him back, you might first express sadness for his broken fingers and his laryngitis, then explain that this MUST be the reason he didn't call or write for so long.

Then after THAT dig, you could tell him the truth; that you missed him and wanted to at least hear from him, but assumed that he'd just moved on to other women, and you weren't about to sit around and pine for ANYone.  Then maybe tell him about some of the dates you've been on since he's been gone, and hint that you MIGHT be available, but only if he calls 3-4 days in advance to ask you out.  (something like that, anyway---this ain't the Gospel.)

I'm p*ssed off and confused. Help!!



I'm confused, too.  Isn't he doing not only exactly what you wanted(contacting you again) but also what we TOLD you he would do if you let him be? 

But you see, this does put you in the driver's seat, for now.  If and when you see him again, sit him down and tell him how you'd like to be treated, and what you find unacceptable if he wants to date you---then watch him respond!  (favorably, probably, if you don't put it as "these are my list of demands for you, and if you accept them, you're weak" but instead, "this is what I find acceptable/unacceptable," then be prepared to hear how HE'D like to be treated.

Fair is fair; what's good for the goose is good for the gander is a nice measuring stick for a successful long-term relationship, especially when it comes to disagreements.

Warmest regards-

Hatman

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5 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2008 - 1:54PM #12
Nefertity
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Hatman,
thanks for making me laugh with the broken fingers and laryngitis. Its nice to see some humour in this situation. I havent responded yet. I cant see myself accepting any reasons as good enough to not contact me at all, not even an email to express how he'd like some space, since its obvious he's been in contact with others. if he missed me that much, why couldn't he just TELL me that it might be too hard to stay in contact? It would have been fine to disappear if only he'd bloody said. Now all I can think about is how he probably got used to female 'attention' and now he's off the damn ship he wants to fall right back in with me.

Jbird,
I might take your advice. If he really wants to contact me he can try a little longer. Besides, if I replied now it would just be a little bit on the angry side. I think I need some time to calm down a little more.
Also, I'm sorry to hear you're going through this. Seems like our situations are so similar.  Maybe you should try calling your ex out on his behaviour?

Thanks for the replies guys. Some very sound advice there. :)
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2008 - 5:48PM #13
Nefertity
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Hey Dah54,

thanks for your post. Incidentally I am not Christian (didn't realise this was a Christian only board?). Usually I agree with you. I am completely honest and truthful,in fact that was what was so nice about our relationship. The honesty we had. HAD being the operative word. He's obviously lied and ignored me for months, and although I do want to be honest, I dont think he deserves that at this moment. He's behaved in a cowardly way and refused to tell me what was going on and as soon as I started playing games (something I actually hate) he fell for it.
If I do talk to him, I will be honest. I will tell him how sh*tty his behaviour was and if there is any hope for us at all. Bu for me to be honest, he has to be honest first. I cant do anthing without knowing what he wants.
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 05, 2008 - 1:57PM #14
KatherineOrthodixie
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Nef,
You know my views - people often say things like he said in order to distance themselves or get out of a relationship that no longer works for them or interests them. I'm not much of a game player myself - I'm not interested in getting people to do something they don't want to, just because it's what I want or to get back at them. I'm not much interested in punishment or treating someone badly the way they treated me. I just forget about 'em.

I guess the thing for you to think about, now that he's resurfaced, and only you can decide, is do you want to resume a "relationship" with someone who would treat you like this? Personally I wouldn't, but you know yourself, him and the situation better than I do.
“The Law of the Church is to give oneself to what is given not to seek one’s own.” Fr. Alexander Schmemann
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 05, 2008 - 5:35PM #15
Nefertity
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Kat-

This is my main issue with him and the reason for not contacting him back. Like I said, I cant accept any reason as good enough, not any reason as enough of an excuse to blatantly ignore me. I couldn't forgive him. I am so angry that even thinking about it makes me want to slap him. So a relationship would be out of the question. People keep telling me I need "closure" but I dont know if I need that. What happened, happened. Do I need a "why"? Would any why even be enough? Right now, no.
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 06, 2008 - 9:29AM #16
KatherineOrthodixie
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[QUOTE=Nefertity;266849]Kat-

This is my main issue with him and the reason for not contacting him back. Like I said, I cant accept any reason as good enough, not any reason as enough of an excuse to blatantly ignore me. I couldn't forgive him. I am so angry that even thinking about it makes me want to slap him. So a relationship would be out of the question. People keep telling me I need "closure" but I dont know if I need that. What happened, happened. Do I need a "why"? Would any why even be enough? Right now, no.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I often wonder about this "closure" thing myself. Now in the sense of moving on and getting on with one's life, of course. But I agree that any answer or reason he could come up with at this point may be irrelevant. As arnie said on a different thread, people break up for all kinds of different reasons, and sometimes they themselves don't know the real reasons, or don't want to own up to them. People don't like to think of themselves as mean or unkind so will do anything to rationalize why they're ending a relationship, and will avoid giving the real answer, which is, more often than not, "I just don't want to be with you anymore."
“The Law of the Church is to give oneself to what is given not to seek one’s own.” Fr. Alexander Schmemann
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2008 - 7:59PM #17
Nefertity
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Kat,
I wish he had just told me that, just said "I dont want to be with you anymore." I could have coped. And I asked him so many times before he left, I reiterated so many times that I'd be okay if he wanted to break up. But he's the one who held onto this relationship.

It would have been our anniversary today. I feel a little disjointed. I want to email him back, demand some answers, but I'm not ready to open that box again. I just dont know what to do.
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2008 - 10:20AM #18
KatherineOrthodixie
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[QUOTE=Nefertity;279322]I want to email him back, demand some answers, but I'm not ready to open that box again. I just dont know what to do.[/QUOTE]

I'd be willing to be a significant amount of money that if you did demand answers, you wouldn't get any more satisfactory ones than you got before. As I said, some people are so self-unaware that they have no clue why they do what they do - others don't want to think of themselves as mean or unkind so they won't tell the truth under any circumstances. You'd probably just get more of the same - "SOS" if you know what I mean!
“The Law of the Church is to give oneself to what is given not to seek one’s own.” Fr. Alexander Schmemann
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5 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2008 - 8:06PM #19
DAH54
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Funny I read these threads, and I almost always hear a few "Christians" telling someone one to "act' in this or that way. Very seldom do you hear a Christian express the thought not to act in certain way but just be honest, and do what you know is correct.

Interesting how many here focus on perceptions and appearances, in creating an appearance of something other than what one is feeling. Of pretending to be something one is not. And when we choose to pretend we wonder why so often we wind up hurt....

Of how often how hard it is to simply express what we feel what we think, what we want. Real love hurts and it is not ALWAYS going to be a rose garden. If you are not willing to risk being hurt, IMHO you are not ready for love. You can't have one without the other.

Just a thought from the other side....

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