| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 7:53PM #31 | |
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"Two hundred thirty six jobs lost with what I've been told is a salary close to $50,000 a year, that's going to be something over $11 million not rolling around in our community," said Paul Pfeifer, President, First National Bank of Holcomb. "And, as a general rule of thumb, is that it rolls over five to seven times, so you even take the bottom of that at five times and that's $55 million that's not rolling around in our community. That's huge." So? If we get rid of the maffia and drug cartels that would put a lot of people out of work too. |
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 8:02PM #32 | |
There never was ammonium hydroxide in meat when my mother was a girl. This has become necessary because cattle are raised in feedlots. Before they are butchered they live in small areas and lie in their own feces. The fat next to the hide that is contaminated with feces during hide removal has to be treated to kill bacteria that gets on the fat from the hide. Also, meat factory workers have been 'cut to the bone' (no pun intended) to save factory owners money. Just as in the poultry industry, intestines get nicked more often when working faster than they safely should. |
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 8:03PM #33 | |
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I really hope some of you do not take antibiotics when you have an infection.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 8:20PM #34 | |
Why? Yeast? |
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 9:00PM #35 | |
If the ground meat you buy at a store has fillers in it, that must be on the label. Now, you must tell us how the above, if true, is harmful.
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 9:01PM #36 | |
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 9:08PM #37 | |
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 9:11PM #38 | |
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 9:42PM #39 | |
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What all of this comes down to is the suitability for human consumption of bovine muscle tissue, commonly known as beef. And eating beef has become problematic in recent years. Once upon a time, cattle, which are foraging animals, ate grass, which is their natural food. Nowadays, at least in the U.S., almost all cattle are fed grain in feedlots. Why? Because it is more profitable. www.pbs.org/independentlens/kingcorn/cow... Because grain is not a proper food for cattle, they must be fed large quantities of antibiotics, growth hormones, and protein supplements, along with the enormous quantities of corn, for the steer to grow big enough (1200 lbs) and fat enough for slaughter. Since this is not a natural food for them, the cattle develop feedlot bloat, acidosis, ulcers, liver disease, and a weakened immune system. Therefore, they must be fed more antibiotics to combat the various conditions, which leads to the development of anti-biotic-resistant bacteria. onlygrassfed.com/pasture-vs-feedlot.html Meat from grassfed cattle should be healthier, but then you have to factor in the fact that the grass those cattle are eating has been treated with fertilisers and herbicides. Then, of course, you have the fact that the grasslands in the U.S. are not big enough to support all the cattle needed to feed the huge appetites of Americans for beef. And, even if they were, the very fact of them means enormous quantities of methane gases are released into the atmosphere by the cattle, which damages the environment. And methane is a far more potent gas than carbon dioxide. Even if the grassfed cattle live more natural lives than those of the feedlots, their deaths are all the same: cruel and horrific. And by the way, American beef has been banned in Europe. Why? Because of the hormones. www.preventcancer.com/consumers/general/... www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/hormone_b... American beef? Even if I did eat meat, no way would I go anywhere near it.
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 27, 2012 - 9:57PM #40 | |
I lived 1/8 mile from a feedlot when I was attending the university in Davis,CA. I've been looking for stats of estimated deaths in the early 1900s to present. I'm not finding anything at cursory search. Why don't you look it up? My mother and 6 brothers and sisters. They raised their own beef, pigs and chickens. They didn't die of E. coli. It was a small family operation. Every year, many thousands of pounds of ground beef are recalled. www.powered-by-produce.com/2011/02/24/gr...
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