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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 3:45PM #41
solfeggio
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Well, then, Ken if you find this topic so boring and silly, why on earth have you been posting in this thread at all?

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 3:59PM #42
solfeggio
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It is important for people to think about what they're eating.  There are many factors in our lives over which we have little or no control, but we can regulate what we eat.  And if we're going to put something into our mouth, we should damn well know that it is not going to hurt us.


With all the information out there telling about healthy eating habits, there is no excuse for anybody to say s/he doesn't know what's good for us and what isn't.


When talking about diet and eating habits, the word 'moderation' always come up.  The idea is that you can eat anything at all if only it is 'in moderation.'  But, of course, nobody really knows just what is implied by the word, which is so general as to be meaningless.


If you have a family history of diabetes, does it matter if you decide to eat cookies and candy and soda 'in moderation' or will those foods cause elevated blood sugar, and maybe lead to the development of diabetes?  Wouldn't it be better to just avoid the processed sugar entirely?


If heart problems run in your family, is it all right to eat pork and ham and spare ribs 'in moderation' until the saturated fat in those meats causes the formation of a plaque deposit in one of your arteries which could then break off and cause a heart attack?  Wouldn't it be healthier to just avoid the fatty meats in the first place?


And the same goes for salty foods like potato chips and fast food.  Is the 5-minute taste experience so very essential to your happiness that you would take the chance on ingesting a substance that really isn't good for you?


The fact is that there really are plenty of so-called 'foods' that nobody should ever be eating, including processed meats, dairy, and processed sugar.  And the reason for this is because these are artificial foods that weren't around when our species was evolving, so our bodies are not equipped to deal with them properly.


The bottom line here is that that tiresome old 'moderation' formula just doesn't work.  If it did, there wouldn't be a worldwide obesity problem.


 


 


 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 4:02PM #43
Ken
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Feb 4, 2012 -- 3:45PM, solfeggio wrote:


Well, then, Ken if you find this topic so boring and silly, why on earth have you been posting in this thread at all?



To be annoying. It's a legitimate pleasure.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 4:32PM #44
solfeggio
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You want to be annoying?  That's interesting.  I should think that instead of wasting time talking about a subject that you find tiresome, you'd instead rather spend your time doing something a little more profitable, such as starting a thread yourself dealing with some topic that interests you.


I do the food thing here not so much because the topic of diet is so fascinating - although it can be - but rather simply because it is one of the few around that isn't completely centered on American interests, of which I know pretty much nothing.


And speaking of sugar, here's another link:


www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-h...


 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 4:42PM #45
Ken
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Feb 4, 2012 -- 4:32PM, solfeggio wrote:


You want to be annoying?  That's interesting.  I should think that instead of wasting time talking about a subject that you find tiresome, you'd instead rather spend your time doing something a little more profitable, such as starting a thread yourself dealing with some topic that interests you.



I'm not wasting much time. I'm mostly reading a biography of Hitler and preparing images for a lecture on Frank Lloyd Wright.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 4:54PM #46
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Feb 4, 2012 -- 4:32PM, solfeggio wrote:


You want to be annoying?  That's interesting.  I should think that instead of wasting time talking about a subject that you find tiresome, you'd instead rather spend your time doing something a little more profitable, such as starting a thread yourself dealing with some topic that interests you.


I do the food thing here not so much because the topic of diet is so fascinating - although it can be - but rather simply because it is one of the few around that isn't completely centered on American interests, of which I know pretty much nothing.


And speaking of sugar, here's another link:


www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-h...


 




Why post on an American Hot Topics board constantly about food? Obviously all posting here have computers and can read at will on most subjects.




 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 7:45PM #47
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Feb 4, 2012 -- 4:54PM, jane2 wrote:

Why post on an American Hot Topics board constantly about food? Obviously all posting here have computers and can read at will on most subjects.


Mythinformation gets posted here because the "evils of sugar" it is a "hot topic" that many mythinformed people like to talk about. Of course there is nothing wrong with sugar. As with any food it's the amount consumed. Informed people know that sugar does not make children hyper. Sugar will not cause you to have diabetes. Sugar is natural, organic, and found in all plants. But, no, people would rather believe the myths.

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I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 8:36PM #48
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Well, what qualifies as a "Hot Topic", anyway, and why is it assumed that all participants, here, are required to opine on a thread whose topic is of little to no interest, or in fact, irritates them?   It's not like there's a lot of threads about Gitmo, or bombing Pakistani's with drones, or how much anti-American sentiment has developed there since we started bombing them.  Or the 87 year old black woman who was killed in Portland OR, after being repeatedly tazed by a policeman.


The food threads that bring recent reports to light may be helpful to those who have a health problem, like diabetes or coronary artery disease, or who have a family history of such. Those who are lucky enough to be in perfect health are free to poo-poo other people's concerns.


Note to solfeggio: I think you know a lot more about American interests than you realize.  You should post on the US News and Politics Board.  The topics there are more varied, the discussions more politcal and less chit-chatty (although some of the most informed and knowledgeable members don't post anymore so it's not as politcally substantive as it once was), and I think you would encounter less of the intolerance you routinely experience here.  Plus those discussions could always benefit from the perspective from someone outside the "fold" if you know what I mean.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 9:15PM #49
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Feb 1, 2012 -- 6:19PM, solfeggio wrote:


A team of researchers at the University of California-San Francisco are recommending that sugar, like alcohol and tobacco, should be a controlled product. 

www.vancouversun.com/health/Sugar+should...


The researchers say that sugar consumption is responsible for the global obesity pandemic, and it contributes to 35 million deaths worldwide annually from non-communicable diseases and major killers such as diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.   

Sugar, the researchers argue, is not just empty calories, but is a substance that changes a person's metabolism, raises blood pressure, and causes damage to the liver.  It's basically a toxic substance.

The researchers recommend finding ways to make sugar consumption less convenient, and giving people more food choices that are not so heavily laden with sugar.  


Their report will be published in the February 2 issue of Nature.   




I definately know SUGAR kills maybe not right away but INSULIN is what kills, too much.  Weight kills and changes peoples attitudes and moods.  Touleen is whats in SODAS that change nero-nerves and hardens arteries and veins.  I was headed that way until a good friend asked me if I drank COFFEE?  I said definately YES.  He said how about FATBURNING COFFEE?   I said WHAT?  Never heard of it.  He told me that I could drink COFFEE or TEA, Dutch Chocolate Rasberry Lattes and BURN FAT.  Now after 3 weeks I have lost 8 lbs and I feel so much better about myself and I play better golf because all the fat was in my belly.  Norm

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 9:34PM #50
mountain_man
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Feb 4, 2012 -- 9:15PM, normaxelson wrote:

I definately know SUGAR kills maybe not right away but INSULIN is what kills, too much.


Sugar does not kill. Poor eating habbits do.


Weight kills and changes peoples attitudes and moods.  Touleen is whats in SODAS that change nero-nerves and hardens arteries and veins.  I was headed that way until a good friend asked me if I drank COFFEE?  I said definately YES.  He said how about FATBURNING COFFEE?


Any product that claims to "burn fat" is a fraud.

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