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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 5:53PM #31
jane2
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 4:58PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 4:39PM, Erey wrote:


  IF not and you want the entire world to see your complete breast, your choice too.  But I tend to think only women who are gunning for attention would go that route.  The same kind of women who think bringing a baby into a court room is a good idea.




It could aslo be Erey that they just think the breast is natural and if you are looking that is your problem.


Shirley





I believe that a respectfull person is aware that any exposed breast is going to suck all of the attention out of the room.  You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen.  My kids would on occasion grab hold of the blanket and flip it or sometimes it would slip on me.  Everyone does their best the lactating mother and the public and there is no reason to make it a big deal but respect  is a two way street. 



I don't believe in creating laws or enforcable rules on how women should nurse but that does not mean that society does not have a set of standards. 




Agree, Erey. Mores exist. (And we are, as a nation, a tad Puritanical--so be it.)




 

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:00PM #32
shirleyj227
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:14PM #33
Ken
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley



When did polite society expect that? The Victorians certainly didn't, and they were the ultimate in polite society.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:19PM #34
Erey
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley




 I don't like your question.  Look when and if you have children, do what you want to do!  You might actually enjoy making other people uncomfortable, your choice.  I am not wired in that way.


I found it easy to cover my breast during the close to two years I breast fed my children.  I would not have found dangling my naked breast out for the world to see at all liberating or comfortable.    Clearly some women do. 



I don't like the idea turning what should be a humdrum feeding of my infants into a grand political or social statement. 


I have never enjoyed dressing in a manner that society would deem immodest or that would draw (in my case unwanted) attention to my body.  I was created with a  strikingly feminine body, much more than average.   I got lots of attention wearing the most basic T-shirts and jeans.  I did not have to wear anything revealing to get attention.   I would not want to get attention for any in your face lack of modesty. 


Like i said, do what you want to do, I personally believe respect is a two way street and boundaries are some of the most underated social constructs.  If I am going to feed my baby I want to be comfortable while doing so, an akward tension in the room because everyone is staring at my breast would not make me comfortable.  I just want to kick back, relax, maybe take a load off my feet while the baby gets fed.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:26PM #35
shirleyj227
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:14PM, Ken wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley



When did polite society expect that? The Victorians certainly didn't, and they were the ultimate in polite society.




Really Ken?


You are making a claim please prove it?


Shirley

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:30PM #36
shirleyj227
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:19PM, Erey wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley




 I don't like your question.




Of course you don't. Because it tells you that your debate point is not logical. Polite society is not always correct that is why we no longer have slaves.


Shirley

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:35PM #37
Erey
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:30PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:19PM, Erey wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley




 I don't like your question.




Of course you don't. Because it tells you that your debate point is not logical. Polite society is not always correct that is why we no longer have slaves.


Shirley




So now you are equating standard modesty, something the vast majority of women are most comfortable with as slavery????  Whatever I need to go.


I could see if what women really wanted to do was to let it all hang out but apparently women don't.  So I don't see the issue. 

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:37PM #38
shirleyj227
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:35PM, Erey wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:30PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:19PM, Erey wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley




 I don't like your question.




Of course you don't. Because it tells you that your debate point is not logical. Polite society is not always correct that is why we no longer have slaves.


Shirley




So now you are equating standard modesty, something the vast majority of women are most comfortable with as slavery????  Whatever I need to go.


I could see if what women really wanted to do was to let it all hang out but apparently women don't.  So I don't see the issue. 




We are talking about polite society. I say it is not the moral standard and you say it is.


Shirley

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:37PM #39
Ken
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:26PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:14PM, Ken wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley



When did polite society expect that? The Victorians certainly didn't, and they were the ultimate in polite society.




Really Ken?


You are making a claim please prove it?


Shirley



I'm Dr. Kenny. I know everything. Victorian ladies continued to go out until the last month of pregnancy. They continued to receive visitors until their water broke. Then they'd say "I beg your pardon, but I'm feeling somewhat indisposed," excuse themselves from company, and have the butler summon a midwife.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 11, 2012 - 6:41PM #40
shirleyj227
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Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:37PM, Ken wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:26PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:14PM, Ken wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 6:00PM, shirleyj227 wrote:


Jan 11, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Erey wrote:


 You can have that attitude that don't look at what you don't want to see but I believe polite people see it as a two way street.  I give breast feeding women a bit of space (unless they are actuall friends of mine and are comfortable with me).  The ones with the breasts do their best to be discrete.  Occasional flashes happen. 




Polite society is not always correct. At one time polite society believed woman should hide when they were expecting a child. Do you think that was correct?


Shirley



When did polite society expect that? The Victorians certainly didn't, and they were the ultimate in polite society.




Really Ken?


You are making a claim please prove it?


Shirley



I'm Dr. Kenny. I know everything. Victorian ladies continued to go out until the last month of pregnancy. They continued to receive visitors until their water broke.




I disagree Dr. Ken at least for the ladies of that time.


Shirley

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