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The perils of fast food and coffee
1 year ago  ::  Apr 12, 2011 - 10:03PM #36
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2011 - 5:30PM #35
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Modern life seems to be a constant string of "Which Drug This Week" choices.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2011 - 5:03PM #34
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So,as a type two diabetic I now need to drop coffee and choose between crack cocain or crystal meth.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2011 - 6:23PM #33
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Apr 4, 2011 -- 11:04AM, Erey wrote:

 I can understand how someone might miss a wheat allergy but not a nut allergy.



And I on the other hand can understand how someone might miss both. Allergies do not always manifest immediately by severe reactions such as anaphylaxis.


The violent allergic reaction to which you refer may either be the first indication of an allergy or may be the culmination of less severe or even unnoticed reactions that occurred for some time previously. There's no way to tell for certain, although allergists do say that it's always possible for someone with mild reactions suddenly and unpredictably to go into anaphylaxis which is why it's generally better to avoid any food to which a person reacts at all if it can be determined that is the source. 


And now we have children so violently allergic that they simply cannot be in the same cafeteria with a pb&j sandwich.  Sharing the same area with that sandwich makes them violently ill.  That is NEW!



I don't know. Perhaps such severe allergies are a very new phenomenon. But I think it important to realize that we don't know to what extent these children may have had mild reactions that suddenly became extreme ones.


There could easily be other causes such as the depleted soil you mentioned, hybridization and other deliberate alterations we've made in the plants, chemical fertilizers and pesticides--who knows?

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2011 - 5:32PM #32
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Apr 4, 2011 -- 5:22PM, Christianlib wrote:


Also, it's been shown recently that a little cinnamon every day will help reduce blood sugar.  Right on top of your morning coffee is a tasty place to sprinkle it--and, no, I don't mean at an overpriced Starbucks.  I mean on the coffee you make at home for about 10% of what Coffeebucks charges.




I attempt to remember to take cinnamon pills everyday.  Most days I do remember.  Type 2 diabetes runs in my maternal family, so I want to be pro-active.


I taken to having local honey sprinkled with cinnamon on a tortilla. Good stuff.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2011 - 5:22PM #31
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Also, it's been shown recently that a little cinnamon every day will help reduce blood sugar.  Right on top of your morning coffee is a tasty place to sprinkle it--and, no, I don't mean at an overpriced Starbucks.  I mean on the coffee you make at home for about 10% of what Coffeebucks charges.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2011 - 5:16PM #30
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Okay on the OP link (first one) there was a link to this article:


New Evidence That Drinking Coffee May Reduce the Risk of Diabetes

Scientists are reporting new evidence that drinking coffee may help prevent diabetes and that caffeine may be the ingredient largely responsible for this effect. Their findings, among the first animal studies to demonstrate this apparent link, appear in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry



Can it be both ways?  Drink coffee, but don't have fast food.  Being a vegetarian there is very little fast food out there which I do partake in.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2011 - 3:49PM #29
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That is what I am talking about Dot the severe peanut allergies and other nut allergies.  the symptoms and responses have not changed.  We are not talking about kids who don't know they are allergic to peanuts and have sinus problems.  We are talking about kids who have the same sort of violent response to nuts that people always have.  Just as you say more severe and much more frequently.


I think yes, the hyper-santiation can be a culprit.  But also back to the food and the diversity in the food.  Take the Monsanto potato for example - the soil that is grown in is basically dead.  All microbial life is killed and then sterile nutrients are added.  So the Monsanto potato you are eating today at Wendy's Hamburgers for example is the same pototato you ate there 3 years ago, etc.  Different potatoes no diversity.  And it is not just potatoes  these kinds of uniform sterility is happening all over the food industry.  


Whereas our counterparts in the third world get all different kids of microbes every time they eat.    So it is not just that our kids don't eat yam greens like the kids in Africa might but that whatever kind of greens they eat or really any kind of produce lacks diversity in itself.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2011 - 3:30PM #28
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What the pediatric allergists who respond to parents' questions in Living Without magazine say is that they're learning that food allergies aren't necessarily obvious. Unfortunately, a good many that cause the symptoms I've had don't show up at all on allergy tests.


Both my parents had significant digestive problems that were never diagnosed as anything organically wrong. I suspect that both probably were wheat intolerant. For all I know, I could be celiac. However, as long as I've been mostly gluten-free but for the occasional lapse, it would do no good to undergo a scoping since I'd have to eat gluten regularly for a couple of weeks or more to damage my intestinal lining enough for celiac disease to be detectable. No thanks! I'm not willing to be sick again for that long a time to find out what I already know: I feel lots better and have no digestive problems when I avoid all gluten. 


My sister has had allergy tests but none have shown any results for the foods she knows she can't eat. She refused to drink milk as a child and told me not long ago that that was due to her feeling intensely nauseated every time she ingested anything containing milk. Naturally, the doctor urged Mom to tempt her with puddings and other foods containing milk so that she got adequate calcium. She said that all that stuff made her sick, but as a kid, she hadn't much choice but to eat it anyway. People simply didn't realize when she and I were kids that digestive upset could be caused by mild food allergies.


Also, allergists are now figuring out that people with respiratory allergy problems such as I had regularly each spring and fall often do far better once they identify foods that they may also be sensitive to and eliminate those foods from their diets. For some reason as yet unknown, allergic reactions can be linked so that eating foods you react to can make other allergic reactions worse even though you've not been around any respiratory allergens. I had almost no sense of smell for several years. Within a couple of weeks after cutting all gluten and dairy out of my diet, it gradually came back. I haven't taken a decongestant since late last summer when I was stupid and ate a lovely crusty dinner roll with a creme brulee for dessert at a favorite restaurant. I awoke the next morning with my sinuses going berserk, and my digestion was messed up for three days. I used to take decongestants daily in both spring and fall.


There's now even a condition that's been informally termed "gluten-brain" which manifests as an inability to concentrate, short-term memory lapses and general muzzy-headedness with sometimes symptoms that would suggest mental illness. MRI's may show indications of brain damage in such people. Take them off all gluten, and they gradually improve.


So, no, as Wgal said, allergies don't necessarily manifest in the extreme form of anaphylactic shock.


Also, there's evidence mounting that the extreme reaction of so many more children to peanuts as well as the dramatic increase in various allergies among children today may be due to our being far too clean. I see people on one Disney World board I read saying that they ALWAYS carry hand sanitizer and never let their kids go on public transportation or amusement rides without using hand sanitizer after each time. If one of their kids touches a railing anywhere, they make the kid use hand sanitizer. Can you imagine what they'd do if the kids came in the house covered with mud? Probably scrub them down with Clorox! Small wonder then that our immune systems may have so little real work to do that they turn to regarding foods as threats and triggering allergic reactions. That's one theory, anyway. 


All the preservatives, food colorings and artificial flavorings in foods have also been implicated. 

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2011 - 1:31PM #27
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I think you can have food allergies and never know you have them.  Perhaps even die of them never knowing that it was something in the food you ate which gave you such a poor health.  Certainly what Dot mentions with her wheat allergy having sinus congestion is not something you would ever put together.  You would think sinus congestion is due to pollen or something, not wheat.


However the symptoms of peanut allergies don't seem to have changed.  You have the same kinds of reactions to really nuts that you have always had.  Just we are seeing alot more of it and much more severe than ever before.

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