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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 1:30PM #1
Agnosticspirit
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Unbelievable....a hotel owner takes it upon himself to tell Hispanic employees to change their names.


news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_trouble_in_taos


 

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 2:06PM #2
Erey
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I think everyone knows how to pronounce Juan and joachim.  But I do see alot of this with Asians.  They take on an anglo name all the time for professional reasons.  They just don't want thier difficult (for mainstream americans) names getting in the way of their career. 

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 3:02PM #3
Roodog
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Oct 26, 2009 -- 1:30PM, Agnosticspirit wrote:


Unbelievable....a hotel owner takes it upon himself to tell Hispanic employees to change their names.


news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_trouble_in_taos


 





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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 3:24PM #4
Agnosticspirit
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Oct 26, 2009 -- 2:06PM, Erey wrote:


I think everyone knows how to pronounce Juan and joachim.  But I do see alot of this with Asians.  They take on an anglo name all the time for professional reasons.  They just don't want thier difficult (for mainstream americans) names getting in the way of their career. 




Some immigrants voluntarily anglicize their names... I have no problem with that... but for an employer to INSIST that his employees change their names? So Not OK with that

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 3:39PM #5
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Oct 26, 2009 -- 2:06PM, Erey wrote:


I think everyone knows how to pronounce Juan and joachim.  But I do see alot of this with Asians.  They take on an anglo name all the time for professional reasons.  They just don't want thier difficult (for mainstream americans) names getting in the way of their career. 






Yes, I have seen this.  But it is voluntary, not because their employer is making them do it.  There's something just not right about that.


It's a futile exercise anyway; I would not be surprised if, within a few years, many Hispanic names end up in the mainstream anyway.  You will have kids named Juan Smith.


What does seem strange to me, however, is that at the same time we have Chinese-Americans naming their kids David, we have African-Americans naming their kids JaMarcus.  Go figure.

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 3:47PM #6
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It's not Hispanic names that are tough to say, figure out.... It's the "new age" names...  My sister in law's daughter named her daughter... Shkyla....  YOU figure it out.  I finally had to call her and ask her how the hell to pronounce it.


My other sister in law named her baby... Jaccyn...  Again, YOU figure it out.


Too many Americans are giving their kids names with f***ed up spellings or simply unrecognizable when seen in print. This employer needs to worry about how Americans are saddling their kids with impossible names instead of whether a guy spells his name "Juan" or "John".


If you want your kid called "Shukyla" then spell it "SHAKYLA".


If you want your kid called "Jackson" then spell it right, dammit!


 

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 3:52PM #7
Agnosticspirit
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Oct 26, 2009 -- 3:47PM, Tmarie64 wrote:

.... This employer needs to worry about how Americans are saddling their kids with impossible names instead of whether a guy spells his name "Juan" or "John".



I concur the new age names are difficult to  pronounce.... but so are Russian names, Swedish names, Norweigen names.... etc. etc... But I dn't agree that the EMPLOYER needs to worry about how other people are saddling their kids with names difficult to pronounce. Sure, he can have an opinion about it but his concern should end there.


There's a limit to what employers can impose upon employees. Thankfully so....


 

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 3:56PM #8
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Oct 26, 2009 -- 1:30PM, Agnosticspirit wrote:

Unbelievable....a hotel owner takes it upon himself to tell Hispanic employees to change their names.


news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_trouble_in_taos


 






Like myself, when you have a French name, one is asked continually why I have a 'girl's name.'

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 4:02PM #9
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LOL, I was googling to see if Europeans have similar gripes about names that are difficult to pronounce... or spell.... or remember and ran across this....


Not sure how scientific it is, but I thought it was kind of fun. If it's difficult to pronounce it must be risky... LOL! CLICK HERE.


 

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2009 - 4:11PM #10
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Oct 26, 2009 -- 4:02PM, Agnosticspirit wrote:

LOL, I was googling to see if Europeans have similar gripes about names that are difficult to pronounce... or spell.... or remember and ran across this....


Not sure how scientific it is, but I thought it was kind of fun. If it's difficult to pronounce it must be risky... LOL! CLICK HERE.


 






You know, I did not learn English until age 8, but I speak it more good, less worst, and really purdier, than most of those in the Colonies.

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