Aug 24, 2011 -- 8:55PM, jane2 wrote:

On and on and on with this never-ending thread...

This board is devolving into Kool-Aid Land. Interpret at will.....................

Online schmoozing can get old, y'all. Pat my back and I'll pat yours........it's 7th grade stuff. In the end real leaders emerge as they often did in grade school forward.

Smile, engage.......yada, yada.

Aug 25, 2011 -- 12:13AM, Mlyons619 wrote:

Gee, going by the OP, I would THINK we ought to be discussing how meat causes diabetes.  That WAS the topic OP after all. 

We seem to have hit several detours and travelled a long and tortuous route away from the thread topic to get to this I-like-you-you-like-me online schmoozing we now have...

We know. Thanks for your input.

Feeling ignored and disregarded must bother you both so much that you have to interject rain on the parade of those enjoying what they're discussing, off-topic though it's long since gone.

Seems to me that the originator of the thread has the predominant right to be distressed by its being off-topic and to steer it back on topic, and she appears to be enjoying the several digressions.

Haven't you two anything else to do but play topic sheriff? Your scoldings are really quite tiresome. 

Aug 25, 2011 -- 4:38AM, DotNotInOz wrote:

Aug 24, 2011 -- 8:55PM, jane2 wrote:

On and on and on with this never-ending thread...

This board is devolving into Kool-Aid Land. Interpret at will.....................

Online schmoozing can get old, y'all. Pat my back and I'll pat yours........it's 7th grade stuff. In the end real leaders emerge as they often did in grade school forward.

Smile, engage.......yada, yada.

Aug 25, 2011 -- 12:13AM, Mlyons619 wrote:

Gee, going by the OP, I would THINK we ought to be discussing how meat causes diabetes.  That WAS the topic OP after all. 

We seem to have hit several detours and travelled a long and tortuous route away from the thread topic to get to this I-like-you-you-like-me online schmoozing we now have...

We know. Thanks for your input.

Feeling ignored and disregarded must bother you both so much that you have to interject rain on the parade of those enjoying what they're discussing, off-topic though it's long since gone.

Seems to me that the originator of the thread has the predominant right to be distressed by its being off-topic and to steer it back on topic, and she appears to be enjoying the several digressions.

Haven't you two anything else to do but play topic sheriff? Your scoldings are really quite tiresome. 

Again, what does all that have to do with meat causing diabetes?

Aug 27, 2011 -- 12:28AM, solfeggio wrote:

So we schmooze a little.  Like that's a crime already?  There are some nice people posting in this thread, and I, for one, enjoy getting to know them a little better.  So sue me.

A LITTLE?

This thread has gone for pages now not even talking on the topic of deiabetes, mich less mat and diabetes.

We have a nice DMZ thread for the social schmoozing, where we can get to know each other a little better, and the political, agenda-driven sniping is supposed to be off limits.  Trouble is - nobody uses it.

Aug 27, 2011 -- 12:28AM, solfeggio wrote:

But, OK -  Meat and diabetes...

...get out and walk more, reduce animal protein consumption, and include more fruits and vegetables in your meals if you want to avoid a nasty, creepy disease like diabetes. 

Okay. I agree with your summary.  Amazing!

We have a very large, fat family.  We have a lot of folks who smoke.  We have some thin folks who smoke and eat red meat.  We have fat folks that smoke and eat red meat.  Everyone eats red meat except me.  NONE of us have diabetes.  That is about 75 different family members.  NO ONE has diabetes.  As far as "situational" diabetes, there is no evidence that there are not genes involved there as well.  It may be different genes but it has not been ruled out that there is a genetic component to "situational" diabetes.  Our family has NO diabetes and we have plenty of folks who are morbidly obese.  I was tested for diabetes because I am very fat at the moment.  My blood sugar was perfect.  My triglycerides are perfect.  My cholesterol is perfect.  My blood pressure is perfect.  That is true for my entire family.  

Aug 29, 2011 -- 5:24PM, appy20 wrote:

We have a very large, fat family.  We have a lot of folks who smoke.  We have some thin folks who smoke and eat red meat.  We have fat folks that smoke and eat red meat.  Everyone eats red meat except me.  NONE of us have diabetes.  That is about 75 different family members.  NO ONE has diabetes.  As far as "situational" diabetes, there is no evidence that there are not genes involved there as well.  It may be different genes but it has not been ruled out that there is a genetic component to "situational" diabetes.  Our family has NO diabetes and we have plenty of folks who are morbidly obese.  I was tested for diabetes because I am very fat at the moment.  My blood sugar was perfect.  My triglycerides are perfect.  My cholesterol is perfect.  My blood pressure is perfect.  That is true for my entire family.  

Hi appy,

Genetic predisposition certainly comes into play in so many cases of diabetes. My husband was insulin-dependant the last ten years of his life. Pasta was a taboo--much more dangerous than moderate portions of red meat. His physician was the head of internal medicine at Piedmont !! My father-in-law was diabetic, too.

I'm ready to see an end to the three-month Georgia heat wave.

J.