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mental illness and normalcy
3 years ago  ::  Oct 09, 2009 - 12:05AM #1
Godgirl
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Does anyone ever contemplate that some of thoes who have been labeled mentaly ill are actualy normal? And that the scientific explaination for mental illness doesnt apply to everyone? Also...as writen in the book bondage breaker...Even those who strongly oppose the orgin of species still hold fast to the belief in the secular psychologists explination of mental illness. That the scientific method of mental illness is not wrong just incomplete. And that the drug companies are creating new mental illnesses all the time. Soon as the scientologists would say every aspect of human behavior will be thought of as an illness. Does this ring any bells for anyone?

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 09, 2009 - 12:06AM #2
Godgirl
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what does everyone believe?

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 6:28AM #3
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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Last Friday I answered a call from the head of the Asperger syndrome support group. So I turned up to meet and greet a visiting Aspie, who was there with another Aspie whom I knew. This quickly turned into an argument! How normal is her blog?

«I have Asperger's and I am kinda friendly with my neighbour we hang out a fair bit especially lately. Anyway he is getting really obsessive about his ex girlfriend and stalking her bydriving around to her house and sitting there, calling her up and hanging up, getting others to call her, getting people to knock on her door, guessing her password for email. facebook and RSVP and reading them on my computer, calling up the airline to find out when she is getting back from her holiday. Anyway my problem is that I am getting too fair involved I was there a few times when he was sitting outside her place, was a look out whilst he went into her shed and tonight turned off her lights at the fuse box.

To "help him out" I nievely decided to place an ad on Gumtree with his ex address saying that she was after casual sex with women. Anyway it got way out of hand and being asexual and Asperger's thought she would get a couple of people tell them to fuck off and that would be it. Instead she got like 60 responces and got in a full on argument with people at her door. I did not intend to hurt or upset her or put her in danger just annoy her I thought it would be a joke instead it got way out of hand and she called the cops, so far so good but we will see. Trouble is that other people are upset with me for doing it and sure it wasnt a good idea but there is a lot more to the story than they know. The truth is I didnt understand the wider implications of playing such a prank I have trouble because of my AS seeing the wider consequences.»
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2009 - 7:30PM #4
koala972
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i find that people like to call me names, as soon as I left an opening I was 'mentally ill'.  Among everything else...   but personally I've always felt those who are unlucky enough to get called this name see something you can't see if you are normal...  maybe that is why the name calling, people are jealous.   HeHeHe so I know I'm reaching, but, sometimes it is fun to think of silly things like this :)


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2009 - 7:25AM #5
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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G'day koala972:


see something you can't see if you are normal.
Yes: I am especially attuned to portents of danger. Surprised


Last weekend I was disgusted at the standard of range safety displayed by visiting rural pistol club members. So I have asked my club's Safety Officer to make a pretty notice based upon my safety drawing. I have titled my creative contribution "Firing line etiquette".


Safety drawing


 

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2009 - 8:29PM #6
koala972
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i like your picture.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2009 - 7:24AM #7
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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Thanks koala972:

Yesterday my masseuse said that I was so uptight, that she told me to come back next week!
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 17, 2009 - 5:20PM #8
Bhakta_glenn
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Oct 9, 2009 -- 12:05AM, Godgirl wrote:


Does anyone ever contemplate that some of thoes who have been labeled mentaly ill are actualy normal? And that the scientific explaination for mental illness doesnt apply to everyone? Also...as writen in the book bondage breaker...Even those who strongly oppose the orgin of species still hold fast to the belief in the secular psychologists explination of mental illness. That the scientific method of mental illness is not wrong just incomplete. And that the drug companies are creating new mental illnesses all the time. Soon as the scientologists would say every aspect of human behavior will be thought of as an illness. Does this ring any bells for anyone?




Not all mental illnesses are treatable with drugs. I have been diagnosed with Cognitive Impairment from birth. The condition is considered to be for life, and untreatable.


 


What is far worse than being diagnosed with a mental health disability, is to actually have one and not be able to get access to mental health care. The doctors may not have perfect knowlege of the mind but, they know far more about mental illness than unqualified people.


 


It has taken me from 1984, to 2007 to actually get an accurate diagnosis of a very severe mental illness which has avdersely affected both my education in school and my access to the adult world of work. My working life terminated in 1989. Eventually, I had to threaten legal action before I got access to a Clinical Psychologist. Counselling could not provide any answers. In the end, clinical diagnosis was provided Psychometric Testing, which is both scientific and objective. Its weakness is that it relies upon a Statistical Method. This means that rare mental health disabilites, which occur in only a few people, are likely to be overlooked and disregarded.


 


According to the Statistical Methodolgy used in Psychometirc Testing, one may ask what is the difference between a Specific Learning Disability (formerly Mental Handicap) and a Mental Illness. In my case, it was three points on a statistical graph. In 2000, I had a Specific Learning Disability and Severe Mental Illness. IN 2007, this diagnosis was reviewed and I was advised that I had a score which made the diagnosis of a Specific Learning Disability unsafe. Instead, the diagnosis was reconstituted to the binary diagnoses of Cognitive Impairment and Clinical Anxiety from birth, along with Severe Mental Illness.


 


Mental Health Drugs cannot treat my condition. Having a diagnosis has actually given me a social status which I previously did not have. For ten and one half years, I did not  receive one penny in Social Security Benefits and had to live by the charity of my wife, with the status of a child asking a parent for pocket money. It is not that I did not want to go to work. 21 years of repeated failure in the workplace and in serial unemployment generated its own clinical dignosis of Factor X, aka as a Mental Health Disability.


 


Phsyically, there does not seem to be anything wrong with me but, I cannot use hand tools nor can I hold down a job in office work. Adult Education has been clinically diagnosed as unsuitable for me.


 


In my case, the drug comapanies are a nebulous abstraction that have no bearing upon my diagnosis or condition.


 


Far from the madding crowd of the chaos whcih is also known as Mental Health Care, I have entered the sane but ancient world of Buddhist Meditation. Buddhism is not only a Relgious Faith,. It happens to prescribe one of the most sophisticated applications of Psychotherapy known to man.


Whilst Buddhist Meditation has not removed or cured the Mental Health Disability, it has helped me come to terms with it and has shown me how to improve the quality of my life.


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 21, 2009 - 7:51AM #9
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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G'day Bhakta_glenn:


Cognitive Impairment
«brain fog) is defined as unusually poor mental function, associated with confusionforgetfulness and difficulty concentrating»
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_impairme...
I find your orthography to be good.


"very severe mental illness"
I note evasion as to your personal responsibility!


"threaten legal action"
I don't threaten!


"I got access to a Clinical Psychologist"
Professional healers seem rationed where you are.


"clinical diagnosis was provided Psychometric Testing, which is both scientific and objective"
This seems to have been a breakthrough in your dealing with authorities.


"Specific Learning Disability"
Your defence seems so erudite, as to bring this into question!
«significant difficulties in the acquisition and use of listening, speaking, reading, writing, reasoning or mathematical abilities» 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_learning_...


Best wishes. 

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 17, 2010 - 5:59PM #10
Bhakta_glenn
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'"Specific Learning Disability"
Your defence seems so erudite, as to bring this into question!
«significant difficulties in the acquisition and use of listening, speaking, reading, writing, reasoning or mathematical abilities» 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_learning_...'


Karma_Yeshe_Dorje


Hmmm......


Armchair Diagnosis is always a dangerous fallacy.


 

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