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7 years ago  ::  May 10, 2008 - 9:46AM #21
habanero
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[QUOTE=anniemariejames;384712]I have anxiety - I've never been diagnosed, but I know I have it. I am wonder if anyone ever has improved with their anxiety through spirituality (praying, seeking help from God etc.). I am looking for ways to ease my anxiety - I've actually tried meditating on www.myinnerworld.com, which seems to have been a good first step. I would love to hear any stories of how spirituality has helped remedy anxiety. I don't think I want to opt for medication just yet. Thanks![/QUOTE]

I used to suffer HORRIBLE anxiety in my 20's and early 30's. I never went to counseling, but that was a personal decision. I'm very self-analytical, so I decided that somehow I could get to the root of the problem.
My basic problem was not enough self-confidence in general. I wanted to be happy and independent.
I want to stress that finding and dealing with the root cause of a particular anxiety is the ONLY real cure.
Therapists are good helpers, as are psychologists. They help many people. I just chose to take a different route and I can say that I mixed self-analyzation with spirituality to become calm, confident and peaceful.
I'm not here to toute any one way of connecting with a Higher Power but this is what I did: I, over time, connected with my guardians through meditation and had conversations with them about my fears and prejudices, and I cried a zillion tears, but let me tell you it was such a freeing experience!
So talking to somebody is important. Whether they live on this planet is up to you.(That was supposed to be humorous) I suppose you could say that the angels live on this planet, we just can't see them all the time.
I had already read a lot of self-help books that made a lot of sense but I just couldn't get  the courage to act until I established that firm connection. It was a feeling of peace and acceptance that is indescribable, and I knew that as long as SOMEBODY was up there and knew that I was doing my best I could move forward with my life, and I did. The zillion tears were pretty important, though...a form of release.
I am not against psychotherapy. I just chose an alternative. Believe me I would have started therapy if this hadn't  worked!
The main reason, I want to note that I didn't try a therapist is that I could hardly pay the rent at the time and I just wasn't willing to spend the cash. So I would have, and maybe my life would have taken a different turn. But I like being me now, that's the point.
Thanks, Jenny
ps I believe that Karma said that these things can take decades. Well he's right, but we can take small steps every day. Apologies if I misquoted!
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7 years ago  ::  May 10, 2008 - 10:26AM #22
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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Anxiety can be crippling! That is a reason for seeing a health professional. There are two types of treatment, that are best used together. First is medication, for which you will need a doctor. Though there are some herbal alternatives, for which I suggest consulting a naturopath or herbalist. The other kind of treatment is psychological, specifically exposure therapy. That is [COLOR="Red"]painful[/COLOR], and best done under qualified supervision.

Lifestyle improvement helps; I recommend combined diet, exercise and meditation for general wellbeing. A lot of people flop at these, so again I suggest seeking expert guidance.

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7 years ago  ::  May 13, 2008 - 12:41AM #23
chichi
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Spirituality and mental health, I have been in this forum int he beginning but was never in the right state of mind due to alot of stress and anxiety..I perferred to read and not participate. Karma we have had a few conversations before..but of course due to my lack of participation you probably don't remember me.

But I'm back in a better state of mind, but you always your name always stuck in my mind as well as Lap's name and I think it's because you always put me in the defence mode ...because  I was in a different state of mind where you ..well here goes..intimidated me in a good way...you made me answer alot of my own questions on just the way you talked and participated in your conversations.

You are off the wall  when it comes to me who only understands laymens terms. Saying all that when I got off my roller coaster ride where I actually listened ...I did hear you and listened to what you had to say and you are as normal as the next guy.....and NORMAL is what we all consider normal.

It's amazing when we actually stop tp listen...the problem people who suffer from  anxiety which is a control issue or I am catholic no pun intended on my behalf...because I do believe.

You are like me and I am like you and everyone else ...we just think a little different but we express in words a different way ..so thank you on being yourself..which I am trying be nothong but myself.
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7 years ago  ::  May 13, 2008 - 7:46AM #24
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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Hello chichi:

[QUOTE]never in the right state of mind due to alot of stress and anxiety[/QUOTE]My interstate holiday dispelled that for me!

[QUOTE]I perferred to read and not participate.[/QUOTE]Your profile is minimalist!
[QUOTE]my lack of participation[/QUOTE]The anxiety disorders are [COLOR="Red"]economically[/COLOR] disabling.

[QUOTE]remember me[/QUOTE]Your handle is distinctive.

[QUOTE]in a better state of mind[/QUOTE]What worked for you?

[QUOTE]me in the defence mode[/QUOTE]You have halted your retreat.

[QUOTE]intimidated me in a good way...you made me answer alot of my own questions on just the way you talked and participated[/QUOTE]People find me stimulating.

[QUOTE]when I got off my roller coaster ride where I actually listened[/QUOTE]A bit of calmness helps.

[QUOTE]anxiety which is a control issue[/QUOTE]This is a very common problem!
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7 years ago  ::  May 13, 2008 - 9:00PM #25
chichi
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Hello Karma,how is it down under. Interesting bike :-)
yes I know my profile is minimal to who I am and what I'm about..I think it's because I am finding myself and I believe in a little of everything that's good..all religions. I have learned to take the good out of the bad and truthfulness and positivness is amazing.

Here a example, now I am going to toot my own horn and say since I started this nightmare I had to relearn how to think all over again and dabble in everything possible like yoga, meditation, mindfulness, excercise, eating better. I was experimenting and by doing all this I started my own succesful buisness 6 months ago, I just bought my first home...life is good anything is possible if you put your mind to it. It's not that I was out seeking a job...all this just seem to come to me, I was offered my own buisness as well as the chance to buy my home.

It's all about the mind and when you have been on that road of depression you want to get out of it, it scared the H out of me I did not like how I was thinking. I have been reading and you seem to do alot of hiking, biking, back packing, see you have found your focus to stay where you are, I have found mine and that's doing a little bit of everything that's good right from my catholic beliefs to buddism to our higher power to god ,allah there all the same to me..it's all good.

The other great therapy was to come to Beliefnet and read read read about everybodies stories and struggles with there mental health, it's touching and I can relate and I think that's part of my healing and I am one of those people who will always have to try a little harder than other's, like my weight for instance some people eat what ever they want I so much as look at food and I gain...uh life isn't it great!

You have yourself a good evening Karma it has been a pleasure!
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7 years ago  ::  May 13, 2008 - 11:42PM #26
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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G'day chichi:

Your photo shows snow!

[QUOTE]how is it down under.[/QUOTE]Western Tasmania was lush!

[QUOTE]my profile is minimal[/QUOTE]Thanks for expanding it. Please would you say more about your location, such as hemisphere or continent.

[QUOTE]I believe in a little of everything that's good..all religions.[/QUOTE]What do you make of the Islamic attitude to apostasy?

[QUOTE]relearn how to think[/QUOTE]You had been a zombie?

[QUOTE]yoga, meditation, mindfulness, excercise, eating better[/QUOTE]Good stuff!

[QUOTE]I started my own succesful[/QUOTE]How are you managing health and fitness?

[QUOTE]anything is possible if you put your mind to it.[/QUOTE]My body mass index is steady at 29.4 (overweight).

[QUOTE]depression[/QUOTE]Have you visited the Depression Support forum?

[QUOTE]you seem to do alot of hiking, biking, back packing[/QUOTE]Last month I toured southeastern Australia.



[QUOTE]you have found your focus[/QUOTE]Battling a chronic condition is always a struggle.

[QUOTE]stay where you are[/QUOTE]I recognise that my income is limited.

[QUOTE]allah[/QUOTE]I lived for five years in Islamic countries.

[QUOTE]read about everybodies stories and struggles with there mental health[/QUOTE]State in your profile and here, what you learned about mental health, from personal experience!

[QUOTE]have to try a little harder than other's, like my weight[/QUOTE]Pop over to the Food Issues & Body Image forum.

[QUOTE]I so much as look at food and I gain.[/QUOTE]This is a psychological issue; please seek [COLOR="Red"]professional[/COLOR] help!
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7 years ago  ::  May 13, 2008 - 11:42PM #27
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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G'day chichi:

Your photo shows snow!

[QUOTE]how is it down under.[/QUOTE]Western Tasmania was lush!

[QUOTE]my profile is minimal[/QUOTE]Thanks for expanding it. Please would you say more about your location, such as hemisphere or continent.

[QUOTE]I believe in a little of everything that's good..all religions.[/QUOTE]What do you make of the Islamic attitude to apostasy?

[QUOTE]relearn how to think[/QUOTE]You had been a zombie?

[QUOTE]yoga, meditation, mindfulness, excercise, eating better[/QUOTE]Good stuff!

[QUOTE]I started my own succesful[/QUOTE]How are you managing health and fitness?

[QUOTE]anything is possible if you put your mind to it.[/QUOTE]My body mass index is steady at 29.4 (overweight).

[QUOTE]depression[/QUOTE]Have you visited the Depression Support forum?

[QUOTE]you seem to do alot of hiking, biking, back packing[/QUOTE]Last month I toured southeastern Australia.



[QUOTE]you have found your focus[/QUOTE]Battling a chronic condition is always a struggle.

[QUOTE]stay where you are[/QUOTE]I recognise that my income is limited.

[QUOTE]allah[/QUOTE]I lived for five years in Islamic countries.

[QUOTE]read about everybodies stories and struggles with there mental health[/QUOTE]State in your profile and here, what you learned about mental health, from personal experience!

[QUOTE]have to try a little harder than other's, like my weight[/QUOTE]Pop over to the Food Issues & Body Image forum.

[QUOTE]I so much as look at food and I gain.[/QUOTE]This is a psychological issue; please seek [COLOR="Red"]professional[/COLOR] help!
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2008 - 11:34PM #28
Whisper4EverNMO
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I have suffered with (not from) anxiety and depression for over 20 years now.  I'm not an expert.....I have no degree, but I do know this......after all the tests....done by all the specialists....prescribing me all the pills..........GOD and PRAYER....was what got me through.  Daily I would suffer from 20 to 30 panic and/or depression episodes a day.....I am now panic attack free.....and have been........for over 3 years.......THANK YOU GOD.....PRAYER...does work........don't let anyone fool you.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2008 - 11:48PM #29
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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G'day Whisper4EverNMO:

How have your exercise regimen & diet helped? And what health care providers do you consult?
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6 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2008 - 7:04PM #30
PuddleGlums
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This is my $0.02 and first post on this forum.  Delmarvamom has given a really excellent list of things that can help ease the anxiety burden.  I fought anxiety and depression for years and when it finally became overwhelming (typical for a guy) I sought help and eventually found a very good medication.  I had tried exercise, support groups, individual counseling, self-help books, meditation, prayer, scripture memorization and, briefly, alcohol.  After I had found the right medication, I found that all of these things enhanced my sense of well-being, and I just enjoyed everything a whole lot more, including religion and prayer.  I found that I stopped doing things obsessively to try to ease the emotional symptoms, but instead engaged in these activities to enhance my life.
PG

OOPS - As I said, it is my first post, and I already have made the mistake of responding to the last post on the first page,
thinking it was the last post of the thread.  It really makes me ANXIOUS when I do that!
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