smile-light wrote:

The only way for me is the AA. also what you put into life you get back out of it,

Absolutely. I would share that AA has worked well for me, as well. When other approaches did not. However, that isn't always how things are presented.

Many come across with a spirit of "You must". Alcoholics can't be told. However, alcoholics will respond favorably to an approach where there is no authority. So, the question for me became "Do I want to be right and smart? A big-shot? Or do I want to help?" When Bill carried the message to Bob, he did it humbly, to save his own ass. The 6 months prior, with the alcoholics he approaches, he preaches, playing the big-shot, being smart and right. He has the answer, don'tcha know?

He stayed sober, but no one else did.

Once he changes his attitude, this AA thing gets created. Coincidence? Of course not.

Ultimately, this is about what works, what is most effective. The approach the book suggests isn't "I have the answer. My way or the highway. I'm the teacher, you're the student"

That the man who is making the approach has had the same difficulty, that he obviously knows what he is talking about, that his whole deportment shouts at the new prospect that he is a man with a real answer, that he has no attitude of Holier Than Thou, nothing whatever except the sincere desire to be helpful; that there are no fees to pay, no axes to grind, no people to please, no lectures to be endured these are the conditions we have found most effective.

cherubino wrote:

Yesterday I celebrated 20 years. I'm still in shock...

Happy Anniversary, Cherubic one! :)

((((( hugs )))))

---- agnosticspirit