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9 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2009 - 11:22AM #1
Angelb23
Posts: 11

Hi!  I'm new.  I've been looking hard on the Internet for a couple months to find a support group like this, and it looks like a good one!  I look forward to making friends, swapping stories, and sharing support. Smile


I am 23 years old and had a back injury at an old job about two years ago.  A few months later I developed popping and severe pain in my knees, which became debilitating to the point where I had to quit my job because the pain and swelling was too bad to stand or walk more than a few paces. The pain has been chronic for a year and a half, with cycles of fair days and fairly evil days, and I still have not been diagnosed with anything.  I cannot afford a doctor now, because the insurance provided to me by my father's employer expired this year.  That does not matter, though, because it seems like when I could see a doctor, he did not take me very seriously.  An MRI, x-rays, and lab tests did not yield much of anything, so he did not believe I was in pain.  (But I was!)  He said it was probably in my head and kept trying to get me on antidepressants.  My family members think I exaggerate about it, too.  My father says I am making it worse than it is in my head so I will not have to take responsibility for what I need to do.  He has no idea what I would sacrifice to be active again so I could take responsibility for my own life.  It does not help when I don't have proof of a problem and no one believes me.  I also get dull aches in other muscles and joints that I do not remember having before.  It is sad that at 23, my once energetic life is reduced to a daily trudge and crawl.  I would really like to start healing sometime, and am wondering if my head could have something to do with the lack of changes, in some weird way.  Is there possibly a way to go about self-healing?

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9 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2009 - 2:08PM #2
dpatel
Posts: 339

Hello,


Sorry to hear about your difficulties. You could try self-hypnosis though I don't know how effective it is. Here's a link for a self-hypnosis CD : www.josephclough.com/manage-chronic-pain...


 God bless you and yours.

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9 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2009 - 8:03PM #3
Angelb23
Posts: 11

Hmm, thank you, that is an interesting post!  I should try it.

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9 years ago  ::  Jul 08, 2009 - 5:15PM #4
Dreamweever2
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Hi Angelb,


What you have described makes sense to me. Back injuries cause people to walk differently than they normally walk. The knees tend to take different pressure and hold up the body weight differently than they normally do to compensate for pain. When that happens, the knees can become affected. I'm so sorry to hear that you are going through this. I hope that since you are as young as you are that you will heal up better than you would if this were happening to you if you were older. Are there any programs for people without insurance in your area to help you? It could be that you are still in need of some kind of treatment. What kind of doctor was it that you saw...a family doctor or specialist? Did the doctor know that this was originally work related? These things could have a bearing on the answers you were given. When your back was injured, did you see a doctor at that time?


I don't mean to be so invasive with the questions. I fell at work and had 2 fractures in my back from the fall. I went around with those fractures undiagnosed for over 6 weeks because the doctors would not order tests that uncovered them any sooner. My fall was 5 years ago. I am scheduled for a procedure to treat the chronic pain on July 16th. It's something that is done through a pain management clinic. The only thing that is detectible on my current MRI's is arthritis. Many times it depends on the person reading the films. I never had any back pain or issues with my back until I fell. I understand what you are going through as far as trying to get effective treatment for your pain. It's important to get more help as soon as you can possibly do it. If it has not gone away, it's not right, and you need help to uncover what is actually going on. Check into any and all help available for people without insurance. I have been through where you are at. It took two and a half years before I was given any treatment except for one course of physical therapy, which did not help. If you have any questions, or just want to talk, please feel free to send me a private message on my profile page by clicking on my horse avitar, or you can post them here, and I'll try to help any way I can.

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9 years ago  ::  Jul 09, 2009 - 8:11PM #5
Angelb23
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Hi, nice to meet you, and thank you so much for your advice and reaching out to me! I had the back injury two years ago working at the cash register.  I turned the wrong way trying to lift something heavy, there was a loud popping noise, and that was it.  Everything is doing better than it was at first, so I have hope that healing will happen.  It is hard because I do not have a job right now.  I'm working on that, and planning on signing up for insurance from my university, and maybe then I can pursue another check-up.  I did not get attention to my back in time.  The doctor at the time was unwilling to order any tests.  He just asked me a few questions and made me go on pain killers and ice my back regularly for many weeks.  He finally ordered physical therapy much, much later, but the exercises they gave me did not help at all.  But he hadn't even gotten tests in the first place, so they didn't know what they were working with, otherwise it might have worked.  The physical therapy I'm doing for my knees is helping everything else out immensely, somehow.  Being on vitamins and exercising every day is helping.  I do not have to take nearly as strong painkillers anymore.  Most of the time.  But the pain is still there and quite a nuisance. 


I had x-rays on both knees, an MRI exam for the left knee (the worse of the two), and blood tests (all from a different doctor), which revealed no problems and showed my knees to be structurally ideal for the most part, except for some mostly normal wear and tear on the surface of the cartilege.  That doctor thought it may be either injury-related arthritis or anxiety, or a combination of the two.  Since my insurance ran out, I obviously have not been able to pursue more answers.  I'm pretty much just doing what I can on my own until the school insurance hopefully works out.  It's been months since the insurance expired, months trying to do this myself.  :(

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9 years ago  ::  Jul 09, 2009 - 8:12PM #6
Angelb23
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I'm sorry to hear about your back.  I hope that heals up for you, too.

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9 years ago  ::  Jul 10, 2009 - 7:50PM #7
Dreamweever2
Posts: 733

Thank you Angelb. I suspect that the doctor that you saw did not do testing in the begining because this was something that happened to you at work. I don't know much about what happens with people that have injuries in other types of accidents, but workers comp laws do not protect employees. They actually help the employers and insurance companies to evade responsibilities. Doctors fall right in line with them. If a doctor knows an injury happened as a result of being on the job, in my experience, and from listening to others that have experienced it, the doctor goes into the mode of working to protect the employer and workers comp insurance company that the employer is obligated to have by law. If they do not uncover an injury, then it doesn't exist....right? By not testing, time passes, and it might just go away....and then there is no proof that an injury ever existed to begin with. Then there's the famous statement "pain is subjective". In many ways pain cannot be proved and can sometimes be comletely debilitating. The problem with all of this is that not everyone is a scam artist. Not everyone that claims to have chronic pain is a lazy person looking for a free ride, and something for nothing. Not every person that suffers from chronic pain is a druggie looking for a high. People who are legitimately in chronic pain are left to scratch and claw to get some kind of help, and with those view points held by so many, it can be an almost impossible battle. The reason that I am telling you this is because you may need to prepare yourself to be ready for when you are in a position to get help. It's never been my experience that anxiety has caused pain...it has however aggrevated it. The pain was there to begin with, but being anxious or stressed makes the pain level increase. Being in pain a while, it took me even longer to recognize that in myself. I was just caught up in the pain itself too much to see it when I did get stressed or anxious. These are the kinds of things you may be up against when you are seeking treatment. It's about to get much worse for people with chronic pain too, because with the death of Michael Jackson, and not too long ago Anna Nichole and her son, they are going to be even more skeptical toward people in chronic pain. The hand writing is on the wall with it. I hate to sound so negative about it all, but it is what it is, and it's frightening. Many people out there need help with pain. I honestly hope that they start doing more scientific investigating to come up with actual effective ways to deal with it, but I seriously doubt that the pharmaceutical companies want much to change. They make a fortune off of peoples suffering. I've suspected the same when it comes to cures for cancer. If there were a cure, too many people would lose too much money. When it comes to money, those who have it are that cold and ruthless. I'm getting off the subject a little here. As you can tell, I'm still quite angry about what has happened to me. I'm begining to work on that, because I don't want to give them (referring to the doctors, insurance company, my old employer, and the idiots that have created these laws that protect them from the injured) that much of myself too. They have already taken enough from me.


I do hope that you are feeling better real soon.

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