Hi - most everyone calls me MAW. I have chronic pain. My husband & I had to quit working in March of 2004 because we couldn't do any work. He is missing 5 discs in is back. He is not a candidate for surgery because when they think they have him completely knocked out he wakes up during the surgery. He ended up on all fours. Not good. I have degenerative disc disorder in my lower back, need both knees replaced, have carpal tunnel, asthma,restless leg syndrome, & fibromyalgia. I have been on morphine & percoset for the last 4 yrs. I am also on medication for depression. Unfortunally we lost our doctor & are desperately looking for another one. We are both running out of medication!!! I found a doctor on the internet who soons pretty good so I think I am going to try to get an appointment with him ASAP. I hoping if I tell them we are almost out of meds they will be able to get us in quickly. I know everyone will probably agree with me when I say I'm so tired of being in pain all of the time. There isn't a time during the day or night that I'm not hurting. I desperately need to lose weight & that will help my knees some. They are getting worse everyday!! How do the rest of you cope? I have to admit I'm not really good at handling my pain. With my depression so bad it just makes the pain worse. We have had so many things go wrong in our life that it really makes it hard to handle the pain. We are living with my daughter now because we just weren't making it & my daughter needed help with her house that she just bought so it might benefit all of us. The only thing is my 2 grandkids. Alexandra is 17 & Keith is 14. If I ask or tell them to do something they just ignore me! Especially my grandson. it seems like since we moved in we are doing most of the work around here plus the grocery shopping. I'm hoping it works out because if we could stay here for a couple of years we could save up some money & get some of our $16,000 bills paid.
Well I guess that's it for me. Thanks for letting me sound off. MAW
Dear Maw, Boy, do you have my sympathy!! Yesterday was the kind of day I dread, when I'd take off my skin if I could just to relieve the pressure and pain!! I also need to lose weight...and I need knee surgery on one leg and have an ankle and heel on the other leg I have to keep getting shots to dissolve the bone spurs on. I had been out with my son and his girlfriend Saturday and ended up walking the mall--the whole mall--for that! So while the spasms were earned, I guess, there just seem so many other worthy people out there I'd like to have "feel my pain" sometime when they are keeping the cost of prescriptions so high. I remember your situation, and i remember writing you, but I'm not sure if it went through or is floating out in the ether somewhere. If I remember, you were staying where everyone was walking through your room all the time and that has to interfere with both your rest and how much more stress that places on you--the last thing you need!! I think either your grandson or granddaughter should trade places with you so that you will have someplace to retreast and they will get an idea that you rate farther up on the food chain than they do. It may be "their" house, but then they wouldn't exist if you didn't. Just getting out of a common area would be so good for your nerves--and it sounds like you are more than pulling your own to deserve a room change as soon as the current school year is out. I know it is hard to ask your daughter for anything else, but it is a medical necessity to keep your stress levels as low as you can. With everything else going on in your lives, I don't think that one room you could retreat to is too much to ask. If you are acting the part of live-in-help, doing the errands, laundry, etc.--all the things like that which help your daughter--just being allowed to "camp out" with all the animals dumped in with you--no WONDER your pain is through the roof!! While I'll freely admit that lots of the other members know a lot more about programs to get people who can't pay for the medications they desperately need, there ARE programs that could get those medications for you at low or no cost. I went through the joys of a mini-withdrawal when they shipped my main pain relief patches 5 days longer than they'd ever taken. I was on day 5 of 3 day meds and thank God I had an appointment with my Pain doctors that day. While the policy is not to write prescriptions for things you should have had, they did for me. The patches came the next day--they'd paid for expediated shipping themselves because they'd screwed up...but all I knew was that the patches hadn't been shipped until the day of my appointment. Listening to music on headphones helps sometimes--I recently got a Best of Simon & Garfunkel tape that contains so many songs my sister and i used to lie in bed and listen to in our room. With my eyes shut, sometimes I can almost feel like I am there, before all the pain started. Since you are doing all the grocery shopping, anything high in antioxidents will help cut your pain level more than you would think. Cranberries, blueberries, cherries--all of these were used by the Native Americans to relieve arthritis symptoms. I can hardly wait for cherries to come in season--and get within my budget--because those worked the best and the fastest for me. Frozen, fresh, canned, dried--these fruits will help and taste good--a win/win situation. I was also told to double the amount of the B-vitamin complex by one of my doctors who has fibromyalgia. You can always come here when you need to SCREAM about your pain; knowing I wasn't alone anymore, that I had friends who really DID know how I felt without my needing to explain about the conditions I have was a true Godsend to me. We could send messages, reach out...and be in pjs at the same time. Maybe the beauty around us with Spring will help--it odes me. The one thing you aren't now is alone. For me, that was so powerful that my family and my docctor noticed a difference in me. Not feeling cut off from other people--and you really aren't now--helped my depression. It's hard to explain to other people who aren't going through it what fibromyalgia and all its nasty little playmates are like, isn't it? I've tried telling them it's like arthritis but in the connective tissue as well as the bones and joints like you and I have. The closest I've gotten to explaining it to people who aren't in our little "club" is to tell them it feels like my body is made up of a lot of cranky 3 -year-olds, all wanting my attention at the same time. I'll tell you what we always tell people--I'm glad you found us and sorry you needed to. Sometimes all we can do is put one foot in front of the other--a great cliche for days like yesterday when I was in bed all day! We try to keep our sense of humor--it keeps me relatively sane. We pray for each other, too...so that's another way I hope things will get better for you! Hugs, Karen
"You are letting your opinion be colored by facts again." 'When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you." these are both from my father.
Thanks Karen - I looks like you & I are really going to connect. I really appreciate you answering me!! I find one of the hardest things to take is when I post something & it take a long time for someone to answer. So again thanks for answering & understanding!!! What are the patches you are talking about?? How often does one last? Do you know if they are covered by insurance? I don't know if you have heard of it but I have Humana for my pescriptions. We went to a new general practioner today & he is really great!!! He gave us a prescription for percoset until he can get us into a pain doctor that he likes. Are you ready for a laugh. I asked him about the doctor that I had read about on the internet & he was not inpressed with him at all. I guess he has sent 2 patients to him & they weren't happy either. One of the patients said that " Dr Gatell came in wearing BUNNY SLIPPERS"! ! ! I guess he is really something else!!! Bless You - MAW
[QUOTE=RememberFriends;475295]Hi - most everyone calls me MAW. I have chronic pain. My husband & I had to quit working in March of 2004 because we couldn't do any work. He is missing 5 discs in is back. He is not a candidate for surgery because when they think they have him completely knocked out he wakes up during the surgery. He ended up on all fours. Not good. I have degenerative disc disorder in my lower back, need both knees replaced, have carpal tunnel, asthma,restless leg syndrome, & fibromyalgia. I have been on morphine & percoset for the last 4 yrs. I am also on medication for depression. Unfortunally we lost our doctor & are desperately looking for another one. We are both running out of medication!!! I found a doctor on the internet who soons pretty good so I think I am going to try to get an appointment with him ASAP. I hoping if I tell them we are almost out of meds they will be able to get us in quickly. I know everyone will probably agree with me when I say I'm so tired of being in pain all of the time. There isn't a time during the day or night that I'm not hurting. I desperately need to lose weight & that will help my knees some. They are getting worse everyday!! How do the rest of you cope? I have to admit I'm not really good at handling my pain. With my depression so bad it just makes the pain worse. We have had so many things go wrong in our life that it really makes it hard to handle the pain. We are living with my daughter now because we just weren't making it & my daughter needed help with her house that she just bought so it might benefit all of us. The only thing is my 2 grandkids. Alexandra is 17 & Keith is 14. If I ask or tell them to do something they just ignore me! Especially my grandson. it seems like since we moved in we are doing most of the work around here plus the grocery shopping. I'm hoping it works out because if we could stay here for a couple of years we could save up some money & get some of our $16,000 bills paid.
Well I guess that's it for me. Thanks for letting me sound off. MAW[/QUOTE] Because of my nightmare of a childhood and teenage hood and a husband so abusive he fractured my skull(he'slong gone), in my fortiees I just couldn't carry it anymore. In therapy I began to think, maybe there is some sort of life justice, and life in the second half will be better, even goo. Then, from a six foot fall and degeneratiive disc disese in my neck (I've had3 vertebrea replaced, two more next month), three years have passed with severe pain 24/7. I was flabbergasted, surprised, disbelieveing that this would happen at this time when I was learning to Hope! I wwas bitter for a very long time, still am. Medications makes the pain minimal ("")(morphine)enough to keep working, but with lapses. It just sucks. But it has made me compassionate and sampathetic for people with more than one condition, or no legs. I find anger towrards G-d creeping up on me sometimes and when I catch it, try mentally listing for all the things I am rateful for: for instance, Him letting me survive a lethal oerdose of Imiprimin. The paralysis in my right arm eventually going away (after the surgery)(not without effort of physical therAPY AND ALL THE THERAPIES i THOOUGHT OF MYSELF). tHE NEUROSURGEON, MY DOCTOR, MY THERAPIST, ARE ALL BAFFLED. aNYWAY, I get so sick of it and sometimes it peaks and I''m just fed up and suicidal. But I think I am learning to live with it. Maybe with the nexy surgery it will improve, however slowly, even more. Maybe not. Maybe it is here to stay, the rest of my life. That infuriates me but I have no choice but to keep trying acceptance (while not giving up fighting).Were it not for the nearness of G-d, I surely would be dead. ...The Patches are phentatly patches. They come in 25,50,75 and 100 mg. Most people swear by them. You wear each on seventy two hours; as a controlled substance you get seven at a time. Here in CALIF anywyay...If it's not in G-d's plan to cure us, Ihope we can live, not just exist, with this denilitating pain--you,I, all people with chronice pain. I have no asnwer. But at The Healing Centre across town, where there is a lot of prayer, they say sometimes healing means coming to terms with your pain, not having it completely cured/eliminated. Mazel Tov and Shalom. MAD MAEL
We are going crazy with the pain plus withdrawal ! ! ! Our family Doctor gave us a script for percoset at 3 a day. That just isn't working. When you have been on a high dose of morphine with percoset in between the 3 percoset only a day just isn't the same. My husband use to be on roxecodone, which was like 6 percoset at a time taken 3 times a day which is like 36 a day the 3 a day that we are both on just is working for him either ! ! ! I don't know what kind of patches you are on but Bruce tried the patches once & everytime he got hot & would sweat the patches would come off. I know they are suppose to last about 72 hours but when he took a shower they would come off too. He quit using them because of that. I haven't tried them because I sweat a lot so I figured they wouldn't work for me either. We can't wait for Wednesday to get here because we have an appointment with a new pain doctor! ! ! We are really praying that he gives us med that will work !!!!. I was thinking I had restless leg syndrome but now I'm not sure. My new family doctor gave me some new medication to try & the pamplet said restless leg syndrome came on in the evening. Well my legs will be hurting in the morning now. It use to be at night only. Now I get it in the morning, afternoon & evening. I'm really having trouble with my left leg the last few days. I am almost always in pain with it. When I'm in bed it has gotten to the point where I can't find any position to lay to get the pain to stop. Also it seems different from my regular pain that I have with my fibromyalgia. I can't really describe it ! ! ! All I know is that it really hurts all the time. I will admit that the last few days I've really felt like ending it ! ! ! ! On mothers day I really got up set & I took my regular pills of a , clonopin, lyrica, & percoset. Then I took 3 xanax that my husband had given me a while back. I had more clonopin in my hand to take but I finally put them away. I decided that I didn't want my grandkids to find me. Deep down I don't think I really wanted to end it I just wanted to go to slepp for quite a whule. When I went to my psychiatrist last Friday I told him my depression was at the highest it has been for a long time. He didn't say anything but then he gave me a scrpt for celexa to add to the meds that I'm already taking. I have to go today & get it filled. I sure hope it works ! ! ! Well wish us luck for Wednesday with this new doctor !!!! Our new family doctor got us an appointment with this new pain doctor. If we would have called ourselves it probably would have been months before we could have gotten in. Anyway like I said please say a prayer that he gives us med that work & also that he can figure out what is wrong with my left leg!!! I'll let you know what happens. Love, MAW
Hello MAW: I feel your pain. I have chronic, relentless pain also. Today is snowing and icy so my back is doing its thing. I have two back surgeries and the neurosurgeon said that my back is now inoperable and permanently disaligned. Not a day goes by that I don't experience acute pain at some point during the day. I am new to the support group but I joined to come out of my shell. Pain changes you. It is still difficult for me to express myself about my pain without breaking down crying. My chronic pain is the engine that drives my depression/anxiety disorder and my PTSD. I attend group therapy each week with other ladies with depression, I am learning socialization rather than toleration. It's a process. I am a fighter! I have been dealing with chronic pain for 34 years but I will never give up. I can walk and stand up straight because I constantly work on myself. I use all sorts of techniques to ease my pain. Today is one of those days where the pain is so acute anything I do doesn't help at all. It like that sometimes. I do things that I enjoy to keep my mind occupied on something fun and positive. I take a lot of bubble baths with the water as hot as I can stand it. Sometimes an icepack for 20 minutes helps quiet my back. I learned that since I've been in therapy I control by activities rather than allowing my back pain to contol my life. Also, pray, MAW. God will help you and your husband but you guys have got to give God control so that you can get some healing. Because of God I am no longer miserable--chronic pain, depression, anxiety and PTSD are no longer in control of me. I no longer am just reactionary toward my maladies--I take action. That morphine is a real bastard; try to get off it. Get out a walk if you can--six blocks out and six blocks back 3 to 4 times a day will have you feeling better. Deep breathing exercises and along with safe place visualization will ease the pain tremendously. Get a hobby. Go to church regularly. You need to develop a support system of professionals and friends/family to help you deal with you maladies. Do not suffer in isolation because that's where the black hole of depression will try to take your life. Volunteer. When you help others it takes your mind off of your problems. Stop sitting/lying around in the dark. Turn on the lights, they will motivate you. Treatment for our type of ailments is about variety of techniques and maintenance. Also, take your medication regaularly, and the same time everyday to stave off acuteness. Hey, I love you MAW. Drop me a line sometime. Peace. DEAU
Hello MAW: I feel your pain. I have chronic, relentless pain also. Today is snowing and icy so my back is doing its thing. I have two back surgeries and the neurosurgeon said that my back is now inoperable and permanently disaligned. Not a day goes by that I don't experience acute pain at some point during the day. I am new to the support group but I joined to come out of my shell. Pain changes you. It is still difficult for me to express myself about my pain without breaking down crying. My chronic pain is the engine that drives my depression/anxiety disorder and my PTSD. I attend group therapy each week with other ladies with depression, I am learning socialization rather than toleration. It's a process. I am a fighter! I have been dealing with chronic pain for 34 years but I will never give up. I can walk and stand up straight because I constantly work on myself. I use all sorts of techniques to ease my pain. Today is one of those days where the pain is so acute anything I do doesn't help at all. It like that sometimes. I do things that I enjoy to keep my mind occupied on something fun and positive. I take a lot of bubble baths with the water as hot as I can stand it. Sometimes an icepack for 20 minutes helps quiet my back. I learned that since I've been in therapy I control by activities rather than allowing my back pain to contol my life. Also, pray, MAW. God will help you and your husband but you guys have got to give God control so that you can get some healing. Because of God I am no longer miserable--chronic pain, depression, anxiety and PTSD are no longer in control of me. I no longer am just reactionary toward my maladies--I take action. That morphine is a real bastard; try to get off it. Get out a walk if you can--six blocks out and six blocks back 3 to 4 times a day will have you feeling better. Deep breathing exercises and along with safe place visualization will ease the pain tremendously. Get a hobby. Go to church regularly. You need to develop a support system of professionals and friends/family to help you deal with you maladies. Do not suffer in isolation because that's where the black hole of depression will try to take your life. Volunteer. When you help others it takes your mind off of your problems. Stop sitting/lying around in the dark. Turn on the lights, they will motivate you. Treatment for our type of ailments is about variety of techniques and maintenance. Also, take your medication regaularly, and the same time everyday to stave off acuteness. Hey, I love you MAW. Drop me a line sometime. Peace. DEAU
Deau & Remember Firends: Hello,let me introduce myself. My name's MarleneEmmett5, but you can call me Marlene. I have suffered with intense migraine pain since the age of 6~that right,you're not reading wrong!! I'm turning 55 in April~ I have been in pain for 48 damn years. The same amount of time Bernie Madoff has been ripping people off!!! Almost 12 years ago I fell down a flight of waxed steps in the condo I used to live in~bad lighting,no signs. I fell and badly twisted my back,hitting it on a stair tread. I have 3 compressed discs & 3 herniated verterbre along with sciatica in both hips!!! I also have a messed up right knee that I only made worse by a fall in 2005~I also have a torn ACL.
I don't let the pain get to me I have a husband to take care of: Hubby has ADHD. It's like living with a 16year old, who has the patience of a 4yr old~who has the attention span of a very energitic 2 year old.
I hate taking pescription meds~cause of what they do to me: Leave me sleepy, make me gain weight~ or the worst constipate me !!! So I make do by adding OC meds/suppliments to my regular Arthritsis meds. I take glucosmine/Condrotian along with my med. and also extra Calicum.
Maw I wanted to let you know I feel for you deeply. I have fibromyalgia along with migraines and other chronic problems. I am on pain meds that doesn't seem to be helping me in the least bit. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia at a younger age than most people they have just started me on medications to help with it and I am still having problems with the pain. I have to be extremely careful with my pain meds because of rebound headaches that can take place. I am hoping that things work out for you with getting into a doctor soon. I will be praying for you and your husband.
In 1973 I had 1/2 of L5 disc removed then in 1975 the other 1/2 herinated and that removed. I was only in my 20's. I have lived with back pain since then and I am 59 years old. Now I have arthritis in my back, scoliosis and no one will touch me because of the wear and tear on my sciatic nerve. Sometimes I feel like electricity is going through my back down my leg. But normally it is just an aching pain. I have had epidermal shots and they did not work. In 1996 they said that I have degenerating discs and that in 1 year I would be in a wheel chair. As of today I am not in a wheelchair.Then in 2006 I couldn't walk went to the Dr. and he said I have a herniated disc, sent me to therapy and it felt better in 2 weeks but the pain is back. I have gone in and out of Dr's and they all say the same. "Live with it" Then I have arthritis in both hips and in both knees. I have lost weight and I am not going to let this get me down. I still walk around the block with my dog, with or without a cane. I wear a back support when I think I really need it.
People who knows me knows that I am in pain by the look on my face and the pain really shows then. But if you saw me I would look just like an 'old fart' with a cane. I laugh and love making others laugh. I still try to get out and do lawn work. My husband hates it when I am on the riding lawnmower because I can barely get off. But I just can't just sit around and do nothing.
When someone says they have a pain in the back, or live in chronic pain I understand it. Everybody's pain is different but it still has one word for it "HURT"