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2 years ago  ::  Feb 24, 2011 - 1:05AM #191
karbie
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Dear Nance--


i had told everyone on the Front Desk that you needed prayers for this Friday--but this post is wonderful -you and your son, getting treatment and you son NOT being with your ex any longer but with you is answer to at least part of my prayers for you. i understand that your life getting ready to move and in treatment will take your time and dedication right now.


There's one thing you can be sure of whether you post any time soon or not--you are still my friend and absolutely in my prayers. I'm so thrilled he is with you!! Now all they need is to detox the poisons from your ex and remind your son how much more worthy you are of his love and respect. I am so proud of you for getting him into treatment instead of with your ex.


Love, hugs, and prayers being sent your way.

"You are letting your opinion be colored by facts again."
'When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
these are both from my father.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 24, 2011 - 1:14AM #192
JoyceB53
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Way to go, Nance, I'm so glad for you.  Try to keep on posting with us, but if you can't, just know that you've done a good thing for you and your son both.  We'll still be here for you!!!  Good luck!

Today is the day that the Lord hath made; we shall rejoice and be glad in it.

---Psalm 118:24
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 24, 2011 - 1:19AM #193
JoyceB53
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ASK, prayers sent your way to help you cope with the loss of your beloved pet.  Pets are so special, and it hurts so much to lose them.  I'm so sorry to read about your loss.


I don't like the circumstances, but I'm really glad to see you again.  I've missed you!

Today is the day that the Lord hath made; we shall rejoice and be glad in it.

---Psalm 118:24
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 25, 2011 - 11:03PM #194
Ask.seek.knock
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Karbie, Joy, Lap, Nance, and JB --


THANKS SO MUCH!!!


Unfortunately, we just learned that the guitar player from a local band that we knew/followed was killed in an auto accident last night.  It's even more close to home because we're members at the same church as his mother; in fact, hubby found out through one of their Sunday School classmates.


First Tigger and now this news heaped on top of bad memories of rotten events in Februaries past ... the February *sadversaries* just keep piling up.  I'll be so-o-o glad when this month is over.

ASK

"The best thing you can do for the world is make the most of yourself." -- Wallace D. Wattles

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 25, 2011 - 11:56PM #195
karbie
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I can't be anti February, since my Grandma was born in 1908 and lived a few months past her 100th birthday. One cousin, my sister in law and I were all born in February and we're just going to finally celebrate with the kids on Mondaynight. My son can't eat after 8PM  and his class ends at 7PM.So instead of having carry-out Chinese here, we'll have it at the kid's and he'll have almost an hour to tank up. I keep struggling with the color deciding to change itself randomly. It's not worth stressing about, but don't let it seem like I was color blind. That only happens when it comes to the shade of someone's skin.


When you talk about the loss of this young man from your church, it takesme back to the loss of a young boy I had in the Children's Chapel before he turned 11. I can still see his face shining while I was playing guitar and the kids were all ranged around me singing "Michael Row the Boat Ashore." He was absolutely tone deaf, and he sang with such happiness and joy--which after all was the purpose, not perfect pitch. the way the lighting was, you could turn it down to seem like it was all lit by candles. that was a special treat the kids loved.


Bruce was out on a snow mobile went it went under a branch and he was hit in  the head. He was the only son,but his parents faced him being brain dead and donated everything that was transplantable then. There are 7 people walking around with parts of his. I didn't know what to say to his parents. When the church expanded the basement "Undercroft" they doubled the size of the library and it is named in his honor. Another young man died in a car accident when he was 19. He was the only child that couple had.


I've found the best thing to do is ask if they want to talk about it, or about him. Tell them you'll still be there for them if they want to talk later about anything. So many people will be there for them at the beginning and then trickle off. Call then after a month or so and invite them out for coffee, bring in a casserole. I don't see you as the " i told them I was sorry or I sent a card" type.


Don't feel guilty about mourning the loss of your cat when someone else is grieving for a lost child. One loss doesn't diminish the other--after all, the prayers are all being sent to the same place. When my dog died, i didn't remember life without him, and i was his chosen person. I felt guilty because I didn't feel the same amount of grief for my step-Grandma I'd only met twice, or my baby brother I'd only seen twice in his brief 5 day life. I couldn't help it.


I'll pray for strength for both you and your congregation, especially his parents.

"You are letting your opinion be colored by facts again."
'When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
these are both from my father.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 7:04PM #196
Ask.seek.knock
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Hey Karbie, thanks for the prayers.  I'm glad February is a good month for you.  There are two good dates in February for me as well - my parents' wedding anniversary and my brother's birthday.  (Although, the fact that my "little brother" is 50 this year is making me feel kinda sad in a different way.)  It's just been in recent years (starting in 2003) that there seem to be bad things (or "sadversaries" [sad anniversaries]) happening in February for me.

Not that it really matters because death of a child would be hard on a parent at any stage of life, but I feel I need to clarify that the person who died in the car crash was 56 years old.  His mother was one of the first people I met when I started attending that church after a gut-wrenching life event on Feb. 3, 2003.  I used to sit with her in church each Sunday, but I haven't attended regularly since the end of 2005. 

Meanwhile, we first saw/heard the band perform in early 2006 (also in February as I now recall).  We were out to dinner "celebrating" the end of my job (hubby's insistence because it was such a bad situation/environment), and the band was playing in the bar area of the restaurant.  After dinner, we went over to the bar and hung out and listened to them for the rest of the night.  Hubby would talk to the band members outside on "smoke breaks".  It was only then that we found out that he was this woman's son, and her son-in-law played bass guitar in the same band.  We had never met her children (son and daughter) through her at the church.  We had met her daughter previously when she was our waitress at a different restaurant.

It also doesn't help that February is the month when we usually get our worst snowstorms.  That just seems to add to the feeling of helpless/hopelessness.  Yes, I know there will be a light at the end of this tunnel.  But, I'm not even looking for the glimmer of it until after March 2, which is the sadversary of the 2004 death of my best girlfriend of 25 years.

There's good and bad in everything.  My next potentially bad month will be May because it has the sadversaries of my dog, Raisin, passing in 2003 and of my FIL passing in 2009.  But, there are also the good dates of my wedding anniversary and my hubby's birthday that month.  It just seems easier to deal with the sad stuff in May than it does in February.

Thanks, again, for your support/prayers.

  

 

 

ASK

"The best thing you can do for the world is make the most of yourself." -- Wallace D. Wattles

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 27, 2011 - 4:15AM #197
karbie
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you are welcome. Hey, the one thing I always hated about having a birthday in February as a kid  was getting clothes because the toys hadn't been restocked yet from Christmas and the letters i had the most trouble with were in it.Although one year that worked out--one aqua dress that was too old for me became my Aunt's Easter dress, the first new dress in a few years. They had 2 kids and money was tight. She gave me some of her clothes that didn't fit. She died suddenly last December. out of their 4 kids, the youngest and busiest calls him every day.


I sent word down to my uncle through Mother that he was in our prayers, but we had decided that the last thing he needs at the moment is stories about her right now. Mother said that he was very grateful for our thoughtfulness. He's living in what was her dream house, and he can't help seeing her in every little touch. He's going to sell it because of that and move to assisted living. She was only 68. isn't it odd that now we consider that young? It hits home with us because my own husband turns 67 this year.


If you can--about any of these sad anniversaries--try to think of the days they died as the day they took up their lives with God. I'm sure that your pets will have learned new tricks and won't drool. No more sore joints or any pain at all. i understand that sometimes when a soul returns, the 'official' greeterscan't keep the pets from getting there first. personally, that sounds good to me. I'm not in a major hurry, but there are a growing number of pets and people I will be glad to see again.


I appreciate the information. I think the fact that we've been becoming almost a family on the depression support forum is a blessing for all of us.


Hang in there. This month is almost gone and the skies will figure we've had enough snow.

"You are letting your opinion be colored by facts again."
'When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
these are both from my father.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 27, 2011 - 9:16PM #198
Nrose
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Hi Ask,


Anytime.  I'm glad that the prayers/thoughts are working. At least, I hope they are.


After you wrote about your cat passing on, as hard as that was, I found out this past Friday that my best friends dog passed away as well. Actually she had to be put down because she was in so much pain. (She had a dislocated disk and pills nor surgery would have helped).  This dog really was like a child to my friend - helped her through lifes ups and downs.  Through her abusive marriage, dealing with the afteraffects and all that.  There are no words.  I actually have a child and no pets, just took care of hers more often than not, so I can't imagine what it is like for an owner to go through it.  


I just know the loss I feel having my son live at his abusive father's house.  My son and I were supposed to go out-of-town for treatment, but it doesn't seem we will be moving as fast as I would have liked.


Prayers are continually being sent your way,                                                                             Condolences to you on your losses.  Hope this community will bring you some comfort, it has for me,


NANCE

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2011 - 1:42AM #199
JoyceB53
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YAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!!!!   I really really really need to scream yell holler cuss and preferably physically HURT somebody, no kidding.  Friend of mine, at that.  I'm so freakin' tired of her and her mouth and her know-it-all attitude, and her been-there-done-that-before-you-did remarks and if it wasn't HER it was by God somebody in her friggin' family that did it, no kidding.  I don't give a damn where you've been, what you've done, what kind of sickness you've dealt with, where you've been to school, whatthehellevah...she or someone in her family did it first and did it better, and if it was a sickness, well hell, they were sicker first!!!!!!!   I can't stand that crap.  I can't stand it I can't stand it i can't stand it and don't know how to cope with it any more it just gets worse and worse and worse all the time.  Took me a while to realize what she's like.  And she USED to work with me.  Key word there is USED to...but she hangs out in the waffle house for hours at a time and acts like she still works there, always in somebody's business, always and I do mean always, no matter what who is talking about she is in it!  If two waitresses are talking she will actually get up out of her seat and run up to them and butt right into their conversation.  And some of my co-workers don't appreciate it, and get rude with her, and then she sulks, sigh.  The other night one of my customers asked me what a certain sandwich was and she jumped out of her booth and got right inbetween me and him and started to tell him...I told her to sit down, and she did, sigh.  Then she giggled at the man and said, "Well, I used to work here, I guess it's a habit to try and help."  Ok, USED to...about ten years or so ago, sigh. 

On fb last week, she told me about a new group, "You Might Have Grown Up in Mableton If...."   Next thing I knew, I was a MEMBER of that group...and hadn't asked to join it.  Then I got an email from her telling me she had added me.  I'm sorry, shouldn't you have asked me if I WANTED to join that blasted group before you signed me in?  I unjoined, and posted on my own wall that I had, and that I hadn't signed myself up, etc.  For one thing, I was getting 30-40 emails a day from that page.  Another reason is that hey, I'm from Away, I didn't grow up in Mableton.  For another thing, there are a few totally insane and crazy people there...one of them is her daughter.  And finally, it just plain didn't interest me.   Jeez.

End of rant, my shoulders actually feel better now, 'cause that was a major load I was carrying tonight.  She really is a friend, but man, sometimes I just want to choke her...or at least put a muzzle on the smart little mouth of hers.  And since I can't do either one, I just had to come here and dump.  Whew.

Today is the day that the Lord hath made; we shall rejoice and be glad in it.

---Psalm 118:24
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 2:39PM #200
JoyceB53
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Nobody has been here for 13 months, isn't that great?  And I was the last one to post here, and here I am again to do some more whining and complaining, lol.  This time it's not a true rant, it's really just whining and moaning.


I'm just really sick and tired of being sick and tired, and no, there's not a 12-step group for this kind of sick and tired.  Not that I know of, anyway.  This sick and tired is about the arthritis, the degenerative discs, the hip out of joint, the crooked spine, and the fibro. 


This sick and tired is sick and tired of waking up in the mornings feeling as crappy as i did when I went to bed, and sometimes, because the pain meds wear off whilst I'm sleeping, I feel worse.  Crawling out of bed is basically just that:  Crawling, slowly, carefully, because the wrong move, or moving too fast(ok, ok, yeah, that's almost impossible, Iknow)can cause more pain.  Getting dressed and out of the bathroom can take, at the least, 30 minutes, and sometimes 45.  Sucks.  It would be lovely to wake up, jump up, and start moving...quickly...every, or most, mornings.  Nope, don't see it happenin' any time soon, sigh.


My hands hurt, so it hurts to type, it hurts to hold a pen and write or draw, it hurts to hold a book and read, and no matter what I'm doing, they ache.   Waaaaaaaa.


My shoulders hurt.  My upper and middle back hurt. My lower back hurts. My knees hurt. My right shinbone hurts, and that's a new hurt.  Goody.  The new pains make life so much more interesting.  Hah!  Wednesday and yesterday my thighs were hurting, but resting seems to have helped them, thank goodness.  


I am tired ALL the damned time, all the time.   Even tho I've only been up a couple hours, I'm just about ready to go back to bed, altho I refuse to lose my day to sleeping.  Besides, if i sleep during the day, it affects how I sleep when I go to bed for the night(even tho for me that's four in the morning...weird schedule, i know).


And bless her heart, I'm afraid that LibraryLady has undiagnosed fibro.  My clues?  Yesterady she told me that she never feels good, she's tired all the time, gets depressed fairly often for no apparent reason, and has weird aches and pains.  So I poked her in a couple places, and when she hollered, I was like, yup, you've got fibro.   She's about five years younger than I am, so if I'm right, I figure she's got about maybe two years left before the pain starts overriding her desire to "do what I can while I still can," which is how she feels right now.   I've already reached that point, and it infuriates me.  


Of course, I'm still working, and so far, I've refused to use the electric carts in the grocery stores, preferring to keep walking.  Hopefully I'll keep on walking...slowly, but still moving forward...for the rest of my life.  And right now, if I take it slow, a few minutes at a time, I can still clean house on my own...even tho I hate hate hate housework and always have, lol.  Somebody gotta do it, tho, and since I'm the only one here, well, I guess that somebody is gonna be me, right?


Anyway, that's my whine for now...don't want or need any kind of feedback.  That's the glory of this thread, we can come here and beat our heads against the wall and the padding on the walls makes it painless...and we're closed in, so nobody can hear us, and we can say the things we want to say....hmmm, wouldn't that be a good line in a song?!?!?!

Today is the day that the Lord hath made; we shall rejoice and be glad in it.

---Psalm 118:24
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