Nov 13, 2008 -- 3:04AM, Shlomo613 wrote:

mathaytace,   If you visit the Discuss MJ forum you will see that there is a difference between MJ and Jewish Christians. They called themselves Hebrew Christians where I visited their church a few times. And church it was, it was a cultural judaism I saw, lox-n-bagels and nothing more. Culture, not Religion. Most true MJ  that I met who know Judaism will not "Worship Jesus" they will worship only to G-d and then invoke Jesus's name. Surely even in Christian circles you see some who pray to G-d and invoke "in Jesus's name we Pray" and others who pray directly to Jesus. You must understand that, for a Jew, to pray to anyone other than G-d is Idolatry. A Gentile can do this, and it's not Idolatry, so long as he also worships G-d. Invoking names while in prayer to G-d is Jewish too, we Jews all invoke the names of the Patriarchs for just about the same reason, to claim the covenant we have with G-d.  I was raised Orthodox, but not the typical one that dominates in Western society. I currently am a member in a Reform shul, and I can tell you that while we welcome Christians to our services and even honor intermarried  Christian spouses with full membership (except for very specific rituals) we threw out a Hebrew Christian from our membership. Proselytizing is never welcome. "And church it was, it was cultural judaism etc.)

WRONG!  Cultural Judaism has nothing to do with any Christian or MJ Church.   Cultural Judaism is a practice which emphasizes Jewish culture as much as belief.  Judaism encourages individual thought and understanding for many Jews as much as orthodox ritual practices. It has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity or Jesus, or anything other religion.   For some it is perhaps more connected to "secular" Judaism as it's connection to Judaism is mainly it's culture, civilization, Jewish values and ethics more than ritual.  Cultural Jews, connect to their Jewish heritage through language, literature, art, dance, music, food. Cultural Jews do not connect to any religious beliefs outside of Judaism including religions that call themselves Messianic Jews, or Hebrew Christians, or any other faith.  Those religion have beliefs that connect to Jesus Christ, and Cultural Jews do not have any such beliefs or practices.

Nov 11, 2008 -- 4:40PM, mathaytace wrote:

From what I understand, Reformed Synagogues are fairly liberal regarding the Torah. I've even heard it said that Reformed Jews don't even consider it inspired. As such, would reformed synagogues be open to accepting Jewish Christians (real Jews, not the MJ wannabe Gentiles) into the congregation? I know personally a Jewish Christian who attends Synagogue on the Sabbath and presides over the Eucharist on Sunday (he is an Anglican priest). I never asked him but is it probable he attends a reformed synagogue? If I'm asking too many questions let me know lol. I just like learning about religions, even ones that aren't my own.

There is no such thing as "Jewish Christians."  Christian beliefs are not compatible with Judaism.

It would be like a Jew going to a church and requesting membership in the body of Christ and baptism while stating they do not believe Jesus is the Messiah or god himself.

People who follow Christ are Christians.  When one converts to Christianity, one becomes a Christian.

When Christians convert to Judaism, we don't call them "Christians for Judaism," they become Jews.

While anyone can attend synagogue, a Reform synagogue holds to Jewish beliefs, not Christian ones.