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Switch to Forum Live View Contrasting Baha'i life with Judaism
4 years ago  ::  Mar 30, 2014 - 6:08AM #1
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Over the last decade, 2005 to 2014, since my retirement from FT,  PT and most volunteer work, after an employment-and-student life of half a century, 1954 to 2004, I have often written about the Jews and Judaism with comparisons and contrasts to a people and a religion I have now been associated with for more than 60 years, the Baha'is and the Baha'i Faith. The following post provides some of these comparisons and contrasts, among other aspects of both the Jewish world and the Baha'i world.

I put the following compilation together after watching Simon Schama's The Story of the Jews on SBSONE TV in Tasmania, on 23/3/'14 and  30/3/'14 from 8:30 to 9:30 p.m. His interest in the identity of the Jew, now and in history, stimulated my own interest in the identity of the Baha'i, now and in history.-Ron Price, Pioneering Over Five Epochs, 24/3/'14.   


                         OUR FRESHLY MINTED TEARS

Part 1:

The longer I have been a Baha’i the more and more I have seen parallels between the Baha’i experience and the Jewish experience, between what it means to be a Baha’i and what it means to be a Jew. While individual experiences, inevitably, vary greatly, certain overall themes are common between the two religions: a history of persecution; a body or writings and myths that separate the believer from non-believers and that give adherents a foundation of meaning and identity in their lives; a spiritual homeland of holy places and holy men and women who act as models and metaphors for living; the importance of written history and a transcendent Being as a source of order for man and society; the importance of Torah, or Law, written law, to bring daily life into conformity with the original teachings; a foundation in charismatic revelation and a transition to an institutional theocratic state; the place of vision and a sense of the future in history and; finally, the crucial interrelationship between the individual and the community.

I have found my Baha’i experience has been helpful in understanding general social and moral issues. I felt deeply conscious of being a Baha’i, and active in spelling out what it meant. Part of the effect of this consciousness has been to make me feel out-of-place, and separate; part of the effect, too, has made me feel integrated with, at one with, the social setting wherever I went. Another effect has been to give me many definitions of homeland: house, land, word processor, place of birth, the planet and a range of serendipitous locations where chance and circumstance has brought me to be. -Ron Price, Pioneering Over Five Epochs, 2014.

Part 2:

This Baha’i business

plays a role at so many

different levels, and in

such varying intensities.


We have our holocaust

on a much smaller scale,

and our freshly minted tears,

from innocent, bewildered

eyes; the world’s forgetfulness

will not debase this coin of gold

which enters through a portal

from which no man returns.

We have our prophets

who came to this same

grainy, parched, landscape

and its unquenchable sun,

and the crazed hot wind

which mutters so very, very

apocalyptically. They were

placed in this oven where

the heat consumes every

thing but compassion.1


Our combustible souls, too,

vanish in a puff, but not before

those prophets, speaking

redemptive words of glacial

austerity and honey-dew

from an unseen world

viewing the entirety of

complex human history.

1 Roger White, “A Desert Place”, Occasions of Grace, George Ronald, Oxford, p.97.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2014 - 12:15PM #2
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This wonderful article, entitled "The Fourth Faith of Israel," was printed in the San Diego Jewish Journal

Blessed is he who mingleth with all men in a spirit of utmost kindliness and love.  ~Baha'u'llah
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2014 - 4:08PM #3
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Thanks, World Citizen, for that information.-Ron Price, Australia

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2014 - 4:47PM #4
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My pleasure, Ron.  May you have a blessed Ridvan!

Blessed is he who mingleth with all men in a spirit of utmost kindliness and love.  ~Baha'u'llah
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