unlike the very abridged so called new testament found in lifeless christian bibles the world over,

The Authentic New Testament is still being written and added to in Our Father YEHWEHS Own scratch pad.

some of the previously  omitted Savior Inspired Events and Actors that i'm aware of are but not fully  in the order that they occurred are :

frances and clair of assisi and his/ there  efforts to heal the then very corrupted church by LIVING HIS SAVIORS GOSPEL  not just preaching it;

ann hutchinson, sojourner truth, george fox, cromewell the lord protector of england, martin luther, martin luther king jr, tinsdale, the members of the continental congress that agreed to and singed  the decoration of Independence, t. jefferson ,all the abolitionists and every one of the suferajets, max kolebe ofm, dietrich bonhoffer, the freedom riders, john wessly, the shakers, the reformed quakers;

and now the brave women and men of every age, health and socio eco  group hat are OWS the peaceful revolutionary's looking to make this world better by there faith and there commitment to non-violence, mutual love  and respect as they suffer greatly in the efforts.

do you hold a page in Humanities Saviors Authentic and Actual  Living  New Testament?

if you would like one then pick up your heart shaped cross  found in Our Savior Brothers New Covenant Commandment , link it to your living heart , follow it where it leads you and before long you will have one too.

or can read the abridged one with its spiritual terrorizing  ending added to that lifeless text for its terroristic powers and call it a day, like most all others did and do.

peace and good and tons o'love

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ps free free to add to the list ifin your moved to.

i agree with your view 100% and i thank you very much for stating it so very very well.

peace and good and tons o'love.

yours very truly

peter the romin american

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Aug 8, 2012 -- 12:58PM, zorba wrote:

Well-this may not be looked at but I'll post anyway.

If I am interpreting this post correctly, it is saying that why the heck does Christianity stop with the New Testament as we all know it. That I 100% agree with. Why people think God doesn't still speak to modern people is beyond me. The whole "Holy Bible" as we know it is how many thousands of years old where there were whether people like it or not, atrocities, class separation, slaves, women not even acknowledged and if so relegated beyond secondary. How anyone of any sophisticated thinking of today can find any of that relevant is beyond me. It's fine as part of history, but that's where it ends for me. I have seen the most conservative, judgmental "Christians" not be able to respond to other ideas in the Bible, THEIR own Bible as counter to the crap and condemnation they spout. Convenient relevance is assigned to certain part of The Bible. Today's people adding to a New Testament is how it ought to be.

again you have made great points and did so very correctly / clearly/ succinctly too- much better then i do.

if i may go a bit deeper... imho the rc " saterday obligation mass" is the last bit of authentic worship that still practiced there in because the day it is done on is a direct link to the original saterday sabbath that Our Father YAHWEH Establish and that His Son/ Our Savior Brother Yesh'wa Messiah Himself honored and clarified its deeper/ deepest meanings to us all:

" who among you would turn away and  leave your sheep that had falling into a ditch just because it is the sabbath? THE SABBATH WAS CREATED FOR HUMAN KIND - HUMAN KIND WAS NOT CREATED TO SERVE THE SABBATH"

contrasted by the very worst / the least holy parts of the rcc  that is there  continued devotion to the fruit of the illicit council of nicea and all the errors of doctrines born from that pagan called counsel of nicea in 328 c.e.-

and chief among those are the rcc' s evil practice of "daring to  defining others faith for them " and the blanket denial of what Our Father YAHWEH gifted to each of us from the garden of perfection to date " free will, free choice and self determination!" as love done without those thins is worthless and only good love gets us into Our Fathers House.

i can go on but let me close with a comment on your observation of the Methodist churches resent advertizing campaign " GOD IS STILL SPEAKING- ARE YOU HEARING"?

I DO LOVE MY METHODIST SISTERS AND BROTHERS AS I DO MY RRC ONES- JOHN WESTLEY FOUNDED THAT METHODIST COMMUNITY AROUND  THE SAME TIME OUR AMERICAN NATION WAS COMING INTO BEING and they both grew as children do... so good some not so good.

but what was overlooked in there ad campaign was the truth that it is not only YAHWEH that speaks to each human ear and eye- however as jer 31/13-34 tells us " practitioners of The New Covenant " LOVE EACH OTHER AS OUR SAVIOR MESSIAH LOVES US" RECEIVE HIS LIVING WORD DIRECTLY UPON OUR LIVING HEART. by our free willed created love we become " falsehood resistant and then in time with our faithful practice we become hell-proof too.

thanks for your thoughtful reply and know that i am praying for peace and good and tons and tons of love be gifted to you and yours.

yours truly

peter the romin american

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Aug 26, 2012 -- 11:19AM, zorba wrote:

absolutely! It is what I think and feel.

I am not saying this to be judgmental, but really just observational, and really a rather disappointing one. I will preface this by the fact that this does not apply to every single person--some really do believe with fervor and go because it has meaning.

I will see on Saturday afternoons, the RC's going to Mass to fulfill their obligation of weekly attendance. It's this whole notion of as long as it "counts". Saturday "counts" so therefore all is well with whatever it is. Don't think people really think about it-just do it out of habit learned from childhood. Protestantism is what I call RC Lite. People go to church on Sunday because they're "supposed to". I started out as one who actually CHOSE to belong to a Protestant church after an  early adulthood attempt at RC (wasn't raised up anything), but even I fell victim to ending up going because I felt I should, and almost like playing to the other faithfully attendees every Sunday, that yeah, here I was too. Why did I feel that need to prove myself to a bunch of fellow sinners or whatever we all are??

I see a sign somewhere "God is still speaking". Are people writing anew with what they then are hearing?

"The Bible is God's love letter to humanity". That sign about knocked me over. In some respects, it maybe has truth. But condemnation of what contemporary times call "non-believers", well, is that really a "love letter"? Certainly not all of the Bible is about love toward humans, now is it?? Yikes! And again, why not an updated love letter then??

hi zorba-

its very  good to hear form you and thanks for sharing  your kind hearted note.

i do believe i understand many of your stated views as they ( many of them) are things that i hold to my self. it has also  been more then a few years from my last church attendance (easter season 2009 i think was my last attendance).

but i am hopeful that one day-maybe one day soon the modern era christain church will come together to serve our Savior Brother and the New Covenant Way- the only way that leads  into Our Fathers House- that He Our Savior Brother Himself established.

that is if / should  they ever stop bickering over " the more correct/ the more errant" branch / denomination is.

because in this regard ( and you will not often hear this statement from me very often ) but saul of tarsus was correct if paraphrased thusly " every denomination and sect has fallen short of Our Savior Brothers Direction and Mandate to "PREACH LOVE BY LIVING LOVE/ PREACH FAITH IN LOVE BY LIVING A FAITHFUL LOVING LIFE" and as such all of today's " brick ad mortar churches" are in deep need of repentance and restarting.

as it is by our fee will commitment and regular practice of The New Covenants Mandate that we  become New Beings making our self able and ready to stand in Our Fathers House.

our redemption begun on that terrible cross 2012 years ago is made perfect only by our  free will to LOVE EACH OTHER AS OUR DEAR SAVIOR BROTHER AND FOREVER LIVING FRIEND LOVES EACH OF US".

and i know/ i deeply hope  that on that day  the now divided christian church comes together under The New Covenant as its only creed i when finally it dose so i will be there crying and singing and knowing our best days are still coming.

well i gotta run now-

its been nice chatting with you in this way and i look foreword to the next time we may do so again. until then i pray you and yours all the peace and good and love that Our Father/ Our Savior Brother can give

yours truly

peter the romin american

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Sep 7, 2012 -- 8:24AM, zorba wrote:

Hey there Peter:

You make a good point that the RC addition of Saturday Masses does result in worship actually taking place on the Sabbath.  I guess the RCs attending don't realize that. It's not my belief that the RCC added Saturdays for that reason though!

The God is Still Speaking I saw was on a UCC church sign actually.

I do recall the Methodist having a campaign though-saw the TV ads a few years back. The UCC slogan I've seen on UCC churches for s bunch of years and saw it again a couple weeks ago.

All of this at some point I am sure started out with strong beliefs. I just have found it devoid for me. I know people who actually admit that their churches --that it is not something they really think about it, and that it is basically a social thing for them more than anything-just kind of something they were raised in and just kept going. And if you ask them if they have a personal relationship with God, they'll admit that no, not really, but yeah, they believe in God, but it's all just on this peripherary. It's social more than anything else. That's fine-people have that right to do that-it's their business. But it's why I don't find church relevant to actually learning about God and why I find it meaningless. If I want to socialize, I can meet people for dinner.

The church I went to at the time, well, there was more interest in the church business aspects than anything else, including one council meeting in which a member screamed at the pastor and stormed out. It was outrageous and just not what I was trying to go to church for. And this kind of tension was persistent. The two churches I attended in the Protestant world, well, when world events would be happening, why the pastors just stuck to their sermons stemming from the set piece of the lectionary series. well, is beyond me. There is a time to ditch a canned sermon. Oh sure, that event would be mentioned in the "Prayers and Concerns" part of the church service, but it doesn't belong JUST there on days like that. Because people SHOULD ask just WHERE IS GOD when tragedies like that happen. Or even a personal tragedy in the church family.

And this is why at this point, it will be a long time before I belong to a brick and mortar church if ever again. I don't have a crystal ball, but I doubt I will ever belong to a church again.  And I do appreciate being able to have a place where I can converse about all of this. That to me has more meaning than any of the dozens upon dozens of churches just within a 5 mile radius of my house!

 

pink is a nice color too but you can take a candy apple red sharpie to depen it up again.

also i do believe what Our Father YAHWEH is still saying to us and still trying to get us to understand is

"My Son Told in The New Covenant 2012 years ago that He Sealed in His Innocent Redeeming/ Healing Life Restoring Blood The & Holiest Word ever Spoken

"LOVE EACH OTHER AS I LOVE YOU" ...." so what is it going to take to START DOING THAT?"

thanks for your very kind hearted reply.

yours truly

peter the romin american

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Dec 29, 2012 -- 12:36PM, Annitenth wrote:

Yes, it is indeed the United Church of Christ which uses the phrase "God Is Still Speaking."  I have had that bumper sticker on my car for a number of years now; in fact, the red background is beginning to fade to pink.