Howdy

Is there support for believing-thinking in the Age of Aquarius-Astrology in the Old Testament and the New Testament? 

It is my understanding that astrology in the west originated in Babylonia which was a pagan polytheistic country.   I don't understand who those who are christians can think that astrology is true.  

It appears that there is a disagreement between astrologers about not only what the purpose of the Age of Astrology but also as to when the Age of Aquarius began.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius

Howdy Dost

Jun 7, 2011 -- 10:19AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

IDBC said:

"It is my understanding that astrology in the west originated in  Babylonia which was a pagan polytheistic country.   I don't understand  who those who are christians can think that astrology is true. "

I personally think new age is all about freedom of thought.  You might accept certain ideas as truth and feel free to seek, explore, question.

Personally I make a distinction between freedom of thought and freedom of belief. 

Jun 7, 2011 -- 10:19AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

I think even before Babylonian astrology man has looked up at the stars and the moon and the sun and tried to understand whether it has some other meaning besides making the sky beautiful.

I think it is quite reasonable to think that in ancient times when man looked up at the stars he tried to understand if there was more to the sky than pretty lights. 

Jun 7, 2011 -- 10:19AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

The same God has been revealing himself to man since the creation but in a different way as time went on.

But there is a difference between God revealing himself to man and God using the stars to enable man to discern the future.

Jun 7, 2011 -- 10:19AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

 For instance, Jesus spoke about lighting a candle (I assume it is actually a candle not something translators cooked up). Ancient people would not have known what a candle is, so a different language for different times.

Jesus did not speak about lighting a candle.  I checked the Bible and the word candle is not in it and Jesus mention astrology as a way to "know". 

Jun 7, 2011 -- 10:19AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

Astrology as gaining knowledge through the stars has always been there for those who 'know'.

To "know" what?

Jun 7, 2011 -- 10:19AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

Three wise men knew of the birth of a Savior by reading the stars. I don't have a problem with Astrology on a broader scale but not likely to read my daily horoscope.

How many wise-magi is not specified in the Bible.  They did not know of the birth of Jesus from reading the "stars".   But from seeing one star, "his star".

But that would only mean that God used that star to reveal to the magi the location of Jesus.

If it is reasonable to think that God put the stars where they are in order for man to "know(?)" then is it not also resonable to think that God made our palms in order for man to "know(?).

Is it reasonable to think that Tarot cards are a way for his to "know(?)" 

Have A Thinking Day May Reason Guide You

Howdy Dost

Jun 11, 2011 -- 8:51AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

 

"How many wise-magi is not specified in the Bible.  They did not  know of the birth of Jesus from reading the "stars".   But from seeing  one star, "his star"."

Thanks for the correction; I should take more care...

I knew that because recently I was a resort in Penn.  and they had a Bible trivia contest.   Out of the twenty questions I got seventeen right and three wrong.  One of the questions I got wrong was: How many wise visited Jesus and I said three.   

Jun 11, 2011 -- 8:51AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

Re the candle Luke 8:16, “No man, when he has lighted a candle, covers it with a vessel, or puts it under a bed; but sets it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light. For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest.."

Re-Re the candle

Luke 8:16 "16 "No one lights a lamp and hides it in a jar or puts it under a bed. Instead, he puts it on a stand, so that those who come in can see the light

www.biblestudytools.com/luke/8-16.html

There are other "translations" of the Bible that do use the word "candle"  but from what I have been able to find is that "candles"  were not used at that time and place of Jesus.

www.biblestudytools.com/parallel-bible/p...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_candle_...  

Of it could be argued by the faithful that it really doesn't matter wether  "candle" or "lamp"  flashlight or torch  is the correct-true but the allegorical illusion of a "light" that is significant.  

Are you one of the people who "really know" and "understand" Astrology? 

I don't think that Astrology was a  science(in the modern sense of the term). 

I would agree that Astology evolved into the the science of Astrology. 

If the so called "science" of Astrology was "lost"  then it was either found again or the Astrologers are doing astrology.

And the fact is that astrology predates christianity.  It was founded by pagan scientists. 

And what is the so called science of corresponence calle? 

Is it a "science"? 

Do you know how it "works"? 

Can Tarot card readers be called scientist? 

What about other methods of "divination"  ?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divination

Do they "work"?

Have A Thinking Day May Reason Guide You  

I know, I know.  Many of us want to be on the wild side of things (spiritually speaking) but I feel it would be fair to address them in a setting that is safe and secure.  Please be kind when addressing a concept.  I posted this garbage because the Christians who oppose the New Age are bent on destroying it.  I remember an evangelist who went to India to shatter Hinduism.  It did not work.  Please be strong and ask Mew (or God) to be by your side.

Honestly speaking, you are half-right.  The New Age was founded by Morgan LaFey as a means to help heal the Pope, into whom was dying at that time.  When LaFey gave the Pope her journal on request, he drew a dolphin in fetal position, knowing that LaFey was channeling the Greek poet Homer -- into whom was blind.  When the Pope died, LaFey brought both the Illiad and the Odyssey with her along with a new faith.

Of course, the name of the faith was in great debate.  Some Celtic disciples felt the religion should be named Paganism, for Celtic religion has been described as "Pagan."  Other disciples requested the name Wicca because of the Germanic tribes that were quickly converting to the faith.  Many began to argue over the name of the faith when a young man by the name of Frodo Baggins (later featured in the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy) suggested the name for the religion.  He remembered that according to the astrologers, Earth is entering the astrological age of Aquarius as mandated by the Zodic sign thereof.  He named it New Age in reference of the future that is yet to come.

During the 11th and 12th centuries, Church authorities felt that the New Agers of Europe were taking the faith of Morgan LaFey -- about to become a saint -- and directing it to the Devil, hence medieval witchcraft.  While only a million New Agers escaped to Asia, most of them were either imprisoned or burned to the stake.  During the Crusades, the survivors were liberated and there did they reconcile with the fugitives.  It was then that Hindu, Buddhist and Taoist philosophy began to be integrated by the New Age.  The religion florished during the Renaissance but sadly they did not have the chance to colonize North America, South America or the Carribbean.  Some New Agers disguised themselves as pirates so as to colonize the Bahama Islands, Bermuda and Puerto Rico.  Unfortunately, these New Agers have to give up the ship.  (No pun intended.)  It was not until the 1970's did New Agers were permitted to emigrate in the United States.  Most Americans admire the shawl and necktie of the American New Agers.

Of course, as for the Mesmerism, the Rosecrucians, the Unity Church, Spiritualism, New Thought, Christian Science, Divine Science or Religious Science and all other "metaphysical" concepts associated with the New Age is pure garbage.  These concepts are filthy and must not to be used even by the New Agers.  They have nothing to do with the New Age.

As for the progression of the Spiritualism and other "spiritual" topics of the 19th century being led into the 20th century and flourished in the 1960's only to become a movement in the 1970's and 1980's, read this: the New Age as I described is true.  Many thoughts about the New Age are false and of the Raven (or Devil).  If what some persons said is true about the New Age being spiritual poison or Satan's snare, then it should be illegal to practice.  Do you understand what I am saying?  The New Age is a religion and it must be regarded as such.  The reason I say this is because I am a New Ager myself.

Remember: "For God so loved the World that He gave is Only Begotten Son, that whomsoever shall believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."