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Flag Nay_ho_tze March 17, 2011 11:47 PM EDT



To all who walk the line between NOR and OR,
I hope you didn't party too hard!!
hehe

Happy St. Patrick's Day, everyone!!
May the luck o' thee Irish be with ye!

NHT
host
=]


Flag Nay_ho_tze March 20, 2011 9:08 PM EDT
Really, guys?

Not a single chuckle from the lot of you?

Not even a TY for the holiday greeting!!

lol

You guys take yourselves wa-a-ay too seriously!!

 

Flag writingal1 March 23, 2011 4:02 AM EDT

"There are 5 worlds in this middle realm..


3 below us....


and another above which must be experienced first hand in order to understand.... Theories do it no justice.. If only u could recall from whence u came..."


 


That's the message you received for YOU and that's great--for YOU.


There are as many different perceptions of what is "below" us and "above" us and "around" us us as there are individuals to perceive them.


Never assume that a message given to you is meant for all.


 

Flag Nay_ho_tze March 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT

Writingal writes:  Never assume that a message given to you is meant for all.


Well spoken, WG --


=]

Flag Nay_ho_tze March 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT

Shamanmystic writes: I've actually died twice ... Clinically dead for up to 7 minutes the second time


*sighing, NHT adds yet another tally mark to the hundreds already keeping track of how many times SM has 'shared' being dead*


 


SM: just curious - do you seriously believe that, 
of the folks who frequent this forum,
none but you have 'pierced the veil'??

 

Flag writingal1 March 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

NHT--you know I think it's great when people share info.


And not-so-great when they think they're the only ones who have/have been given info to share....


 

Flag Nay_ho_tze March 23, 2011 8:42 PM EDT

WGal writes: ...when they think they're the only ones who have/have been given info to share....


Indeed - - certainly clogs up the free exchange of ideas, experiences, etc. ...


Flag Tenlionz April 4, 2011 8:01 PM EDT

Mar 20, 2011 -- 9:08PM, Nay_ho_tze wrote:


Really, guys?

Not a single chuckle from the lot of you?

Not even a TY for the holiday greeting!!

lol

You guys take yourselves wa-a-ay too seriously!!

 




You hit te nail on the head that time Nay Ho, hehe. Thanks for the happy Patties sweetie! I had 1 green beer an a pork then hit the hay. Busy at work latley. Thanks again good Mother.

Flag Tenlionz April 4, 2011 8:06 PM EDT

Mar 23, 2011 -- 2:40PM, Nay_ho_tze wrote:


Shamanmystic writes: I've actually died twice ... Clinically dead for up to 7 minutes the second time


*sighing, NHT adds yet another tally mark to the hundreds already keeping track of how many times SM has 'shared' being dead*


 


SM: just curious - do you seriously believe that, 
of the folks who frequent this forum,
none but you have 'pierced the veil'??

 




Thesed are the ways of bullies, liars and manipulaters. Talk the talk but cant walk the walk, sad powerless lifless fools for the most part. Takes all kinds to make a world.

Flag Forest Child April 30, 2011 6:14 PM EDT

Well, many of us have experienced such things.  The difference is that few feel the need to bring it up in virtually every thread.  With respect, then it comes across as tedious and bragging.  


Goodness, wasn't this a thread about St Patrick's day?  We don't really celebrate that here, some do, it's just an excuse for a drunken pub crawl but it can be fun with the right crowd.

Flag Forest Child April 30, 2011 7:10 PM EDT

Nope, I haven't had NDEs.  Shamanic practice though altered states of awareness allows practitioners to visit many places, we all know this.  If NDE is your thing, that's fine but it is only a fraction of the whole shamanic/spiritual spectrum and comparing notes seems strange since many of us experience similar but remarkably different things. 


For example the Tibetan concept of the other world is of a shining city in the high mountains, yet the Komi travel far north and the entrance to the other world changes depending on the 'sins' of the person, there is another tribe who's name I forget right now who return under the sea after death. 


Whist working with people from different cultural backgrounds, it has become clear that it is their concept of the otherworld which forms the basis for the experience.  There are some commonalities like the travel across water, a bridge, a boat or some other means of travel and the healing places, learning places and 'secure' places over there but the literal visuals vary considerably.


The 'grey place' however, seems common to almost all cultures and usually I see this as a misty forest, grey and still where lost and confused souls are often found.  

Flag writingal1 April 30, 2011 8:11 PM EDT

Apr 30, 2011 -- 7:10PM, Forest Child wrote:


Nope, I haven't had NDEs.  Shamanic practice though altered states of awareness allows practitioners to visit many places, we all know this.  If NDE is your thing, that's fine but it is only a fraction of the whole shamanic/spiritual spectrum and comparing notes seems strange since many of us experience similar but remarkably different things. 


For example the Tibetan concept of the other world is of a shining city in the high mountains, yet the Komi travel far north and the entrance to the other world changes depending on the 'sins' of the person, there is another tribe who's name I forget right now who return under the sea after death. 


Whist working with people from different cultural backgrounds, it has become clear that it is their concept of the otherworld which forms the basis for the experience.  There are some commonalities like the travel across water, a bridge, a boat or some other means of travel and the healing places, learning places and 'secure' places over there but the literal visuals vary considerably.


The 'grey place' however, seems common to almost all cultures and usually I see this as a misty forest, grey and still where lost and confused souls are often found.  





Forest Child--hi.


Yep--you know and I know that these kinds of experiences are not the exclusive property of "a few."


And that not everyone feels the need to brag and/or to think that they and they alone have experienced such things.....


It is a common error to mistake slience for lack of knowledge.

Flag Tenlionz May 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

Yupper, and many times its simply Internet Horse Shit, lies and manipulation cast at folks that don't know you and cant really verify anything you say, so why not lie my ass off? What the thrill is for this type I'm not sure, but there are Tons of them on the Net.





Ten lionz
Flag Forest Child May 1, 2011 5:45 PM EDT

Often over the Internet it is difficult to trust others also.  Someone claims they can do this or that which is generally unprovable like psychic stuff or remote viewing and when they throw the gauntlet down, nobody can trust that they will tell the truth when said information is offered .


There is nothing in this type of thing for the Spirits who help us and work through us so it is rarely supported.  At the end of the day Shamanism is about being that 'hollow bone' for the benefit of all beings.

Flag Tenlionz May 1, 2011 6:22 PM EDT

'hollow bone' hehe, Ok now you made me laugh really hard. Not sure what that is or if I even want to know hehe. Thanks FC I needed that,

Flag Forest Child May 1, 2011 6:32 PM EDT

Ok, if you don't want to know . . . look away now!  ;)


I don't know who coined it but the term 'Hollow bone' is a reference in Shamanic circles to both the hollow bone spirit catcher made from a short length of hollowed out bone which some shamans use to catch the soul part in, they then blow it back into the patient when s/he returns with it.  It is therefore, also, a nice metaphor for the shaman him or herself who needs to be clear of all their own sh*t and get out of their own way to become a conduit for spirit to work effectively through.  That can't happen when we are full of ourselves and our own worries, concerns, importance or ego.  

Flag writingal1 May 1, 2011 7:12 PM EDT

Forest Child--Hi.


Some Peoples also call that a "Soul Catcher."


There sare some beutiful examples form some Northwest Coast Peoples...


BTW--but not apropos of your post--it seems the concept of prudent silence is not universally known.....


 


 

Flag Tenlionz May 2, 2011 7:47 PM EDT

Thats perdy kool FC, in NDN Circles there are those known as Horn Doctors. They use a horn instead of bone,  and instead of blowing it back at the patient, they draw things from the body and spirit and blow it away as smoke.

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