Jun 17, 2011 -- 2:18PM, NATAS wrote:

Is it forbidden for a Muslim to have another Muslim as a slave?

Yes i think so, for slaves is only attained by defending against kaafir enemies, thus Muslims dont come into the equation, however if a kaafir slave converts, then the owner is not under obligation to free him, but as Islam looks upon compassion to and freeing slaves as an act of great good, then this is why in overwhelming cases slaves were freed

Jun 17, 2011 -- 2:18PM, NATAS wrote:

And where does it say in the Quran or Hadiths that the reason for slavery is rehabillitation?

it is deduced from the teachings; the Muslims duty is to save himself and all of humanity [as much as he can] from the Hell fire, so our interaction and treatment of non-Muslims wether slaves or not, is all meant as an 'invitation to Islam'; also the slave lives amongst the muslims and sees the excellent examples of Islam first hand; there can be no better exposure to the beuty of Islam 

The slaves also enjoy unprecedented human rights and dignified interaction with the Muslim society too, not being shunned etc, and thus once their freed, their ready to live as respectable members of the community

  ... (iv) to distribute them among the Muslims as part of the spoils of war.

the fourth option, whence followed the humane laws and norms instituted by Islam for what is, in effect, the rehabilitation of prisoners of war.

The slave in every Muslim house had the opportunity to see at close quarters the truth of Islam in practice. His heart would be won over by kind treatment and the humanity of Islam in general, especially by the access the slave had to many of the legal rights enjoyed by Muslims, and, ultimately, by getting his freedom. In this way, many thousands of the very best people have swelled the numbers of the great and famous in Islam, whose own example has then become a sunna, a norm, for the Muslims who succeeded them-imams such as Nafi�, Imam Malik�s sheikh, and Tawus bin Qaisan, to name only two.

The reality is that in Islam it is overwhelmingly the case that being a slave was a temporary condition.

qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=...

Jun 17, 2011 -- 2:18PM, NATAS wrote:

How can a Muslim free a Muslim slave as compensation if a Muslim could never own another Muslim slave?

I think your answer lies above; Muslims are not under obligation to free their slaves once their muslim, thus it is only natural that some wont be immediately freed 

Jun 17, 2011 -- 2:18PM, NATAS wrote:

Would you believe a story about a Non-Muslim freeing a slave and the slave refusing because he was treated well by his slavemaster?

yes it will be very rare indeed, however this slaveboy lived with THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH [SWT] and you can tell that type of endearment he'd have to the best of humanity, so it is not surprising that he did not leave; his dad was heartbroken when the boy was captured as a slave too and spent years? looking for him and the boy knew this, but yet he chose to stay with muhammad [saw]; straight after this event, the Propht [saw] adopted him as his son, untill adoption was prohibbited by Allah [swt], but in his later life this former slave was married to a cousin? of the prophet [saw], so this shows how their would be no stigma  attachd to freed slaves and they would be treated as equall members of the community

Jun 17, 2011 -- 2:18PM, NATAS wrote:

Why did Muhammad free him?

as above; when he 'adopted him' he was freed

Jun 17, 2011 -- 2:18PM, NATAS wrote:

Would it be wrong for a Muslim slavemaster free a slave if the quality of life of the slave would be worse off if he were set free?

 in a Muslim society it wouldn't be worse

Jun 29, 2011 -- 11:43PM, arabianwitch wrote:

Slavery is an absolute evil and has no place, any place, in the world today. Nothing can justify it and nothing can excuse it.

Salaam,

Aisha

Muslims are messengers, caliphs and slaves of ALLAH^swt.  Is that evil?

Howdy Visio

Jun 30, 2011 -- 1:25PM, visio wrote:

 

Muslims are messengers, caliphs and slaves of ALLAH^swt.  Is that evil?

Yes.  It is evil because Muslims who are not as kind as Allah and who do not treat slaves as they are "SUPPOSED" to treat them will use it as an excuse to have slaves. 

Christian slaveowners used the excuse that because their slaves we not "believers"  that owning slaves who were not "believers" and making them believers they would be saving them from hellfire.   And according to the Bible christian slaveowners were "SUPPOSED" to treat them kindly and with compassion.  

I am sure that you will agree that slaveowners both christian and muslim did not always do what the were "SUPPOSED" to do.