| 2 years ago :: Feb 05, 2011 - 5:06PM #11 | |
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Thank you for the offer, that is most kind of you. I'm happy to talk here since nobody is identified.
Yes, it was a very uncomfortable and difficult situation, and continues to be so while nothing is done or changed. I've asked my spirits again about this and the consensus seems to be to attend the next meeting. If nothing has changed then I can/should??? take this up in private. Hmmm, fun all round. |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 05, 2011 - 5:59PM #12 | |
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I agree, this could be the beginning signs of a serious mental/medical condition. Working in the health care field and law enforcement for many years I have dealt with this issue many times, and sadly watched as very good People deteriorated mentally and became very abusive, to the point of having to be restrained and even EOD to mental health facilities. I hope that's not the case, I believe your group will know when things have gone to far and you must do what no one really wants to do. very sad my friend, you have my prayers.
Ten lionz
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 05, 2011 - 6:26PM #13 | |
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Forest Child--you're welcome.
It's good to know you're receiving guidance. This would be a very difficult situation--and a very disturbing event to witness--for almost everyone. Can you send the Elder general healing energy? (Something to think about--you are obvioously not a relative so you really don't have any legal "standing" to do anything specific. About the most you could do is to alert others who would have the legal ability to do something for this person.) |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 05, 2011 - 9:09PM #14 | |
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True, unless the person is deemed a threat to them selves or others, then of course a third party affidavit can be signed and the person can receive the care they need even as an unwilling patient. Any talk of suicide or homicide should be taken seriously and the authorities should be alerted, at this point the subject will be taken to the ED and evaluated by an MHP, you need not be a relative for this course of action. Of course I have no idea how things work across the pond. Best of luck my Friend. Ten lionz
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 06, 2011 - 11:18AM #15 | |
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TL--
it is impossible to give legal advice in these circumstanes because laws differ from one jurisdiction to another. And no two jurisdictions have exactly the same laws and/or procedures covering any given situation. |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 07, 2011 - 3:33AM #16 | |
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only robots never have issues the rest of us are to busy dealing with life....
All one can do is apologize and attempt to right wrongs. For who in this world has never wronged another? Who I ask has never been overwhelmed at some point in their life whether it be from the passing of a loved one or some other life "crisis / stressor". Those who cannot forgive and move on are missing more than the one who invoked the response. Those who hold resentments towards another find that it is themselves they truly undo and not the other which they cannot forgive. "When a man sets out to murder another he should dig 2 graves. One for his victim and one for himself." - old chinese proverb Hope your "elder" finds their way back. Personally I would approach the person in private. Is it not enough that all the worlds a stage. Must one open wounds up for the evil gossips of others. Whole / Holy = Holism... Since one cannot define the infinite ie sum of all parts as there aren't enough words in all the universe, I challenge u to show me a truly whole person without blemish. One who has never done wrong; nor ever will do such again. Lotta people in this word act holy. Few really are. I 'm in neither crowd just in case your wondering... lol Bet my sense of humor still isn't seen or not understood for what it is.. oh welll... He who can't look death in the face and laugh isn't really alive... Good luck with your elder... I thought the word simply meant ELDER. Guess it's not possible life goes in circles. ie one goes from the nowhere to nowhere. Back to the world feasting on us like we did on it. Levity and Gravitas every sages balance beam.. |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 07, 2011 - 5:27AM #17 | |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 07, 2011 - 2:50PM #18 | |
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The incident is described in detail by Forest Child in
Post #9 above. (This is to save them from having to re-type the whole painful and harrowing incident.) |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 07, 2011 - 3:48PM #19 | |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 07, 2011 - 5:58PM #20 | |
Then don't give it. Telling someone they are helpless if they are not a relative is simple ignorance concerning mental heath care and its many issues. And yes many States carry the same protocols concerning mental heath or behavioral health issue. Generally a phone call can provide the answers one needs in any given jurisdiction, even across the pond, and I certainly don't need correction from someone unequipped for the task. |
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