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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 4:07PM #1
Zammy13
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I have been trying to choose between two Pantheons for a long time. Greek and Norse. I was wondering...Can I pick from both? I don't see why I can't but, I want to do this right.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 6:30PM #2
Sacrificialgoddess
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Well, you might use the different pantheons in different situations, but mixing and matching in spell work is disrespectful and just asking for trouble.
Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 9:11PM #3
Zammy13
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That's what I thought Thank you

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2010 - 5:41PM #4
ManzanitaBear
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What's wrong with mixing and matching in spellwork? Whatever goddess/god calls to you, you might as well invoke, whatever their ancestry. If a Greek can marry a Scandinavian (it's certainly happened), why shouldn't their respective people's ancient gods show up in the same ritual?

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2010 - 7:24PM #5
Sacrificialgoddess
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Dec 19, 2010 -- 5:41PM, ManzanitaBear wrote:


What's wrong with mixing and matching in spellwork? Whatever goddess/god calls to you, you might as well invoke, whatever their ancestry. If a Greek can marry a Scandinavian (it's certainly happened), why shouldn't their respective people's ancient gods show up in the same ritual?





 


Well, there is respect to consider. What makes you think that Hecate would want to particpate in a ritual with Freya, or vice versa?  They might tear each other apart, and destroy anything you wanted done.  Clue by fours would then about, and grovelling would ensue to calm the pissed off goddesses.


 


 


Actually, can you give a reason why this would be a good idea?

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2010 - 7:50PM #6
ManzanitaBear
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If both goddesses want to come in, it would be. The question is whether they would.


The rituals I've participated in have usually entailed calling in a goddess and god, by any name, from any pantheon. And surely you know the "Isis, Astarte, Hecate, Inana" chant? Deities may have different names in different pantheons and be more or less the same.


I suppose it makes sense not to call in deities who would be at cross purposes. But surely deities from different pantheons could cooperate if their attributes balance each other's.


The pantheons we know are the result of mixing and matching, but it happened centuries ago. Whenever polytheistic cultures meet, they exchange gods along with cultural mores and physical genes. The Norse ended up with two sets of gods, each with a different cultural ancestry. The Greek pantheon grew out of a collection of smaller local gods, not all of whom were necessarily worshipped by the same original people. The Romans adopted Greek gods and gave them Roman names, but also kept a few deities of their own. And to confound matters more, Christianity came along and redesignated many of the gods as saints, creating a new pantheon right there.


So if we call in gods from different pantheons, we're doing no differently than our ancestors.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2010 - 8:30PM #7
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Dec 19, 2010 -- 7:50PM, ManzanitaBear wrote:


So if we call in gods from different pantheons, we're doing no differently than our ancestors.




Nice rationalization.  However, it is disrespectful to do things in ritual that treat the Gods either casually or callously--which is what your post would have us do.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2010 - 8:38PM #8
ManzanitaBear
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Dec 19, 2010 -- 8:30PM, KeaErisdottir wrote:


Dec 19, 2010 -- 7:50PM, ManzanitaBear wrote:


So if we call in gods from different pantheons, we're doing no differently than our ancestors.




Nice rationalization.  However, it is disrespectful to do things in ritual that treat the Gods either casually or callously--which is what your post would have us do.




And what is casual or callous about calling in gods from different pantheons? If you feel drawn to/called by more than one, isn't that enough?

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2010 - 9:37PM #9
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Dec 19, 2010 -- 8:38PM, ManzanitaBear wrote:


Dec 19, 2010 -- 8:30PM, KeaErisdottir wrote:


Dec 19, 2010 -- 7:50PM, ManzanitaBear wrote:


So if we call in gods from different pantheons, we're doing no differently than our ancestors.




Nice rationalization.  However, it is disrespectful to do things in ritual that treat the Gods either casually or callously--which is what your post would have us do.




And what is casual or callous about calling in gods from different pantheons? If you feel drawn to/called by more than one, isn't that enough?





And what's wrong with simply respecting the gods by calling different pantheons at different rituals?  Or do you not respect the gods more than your ancestors? 


Equating the gods with ancestors?  That's just so... disrespectful to the gods.

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2010 - 9:40PM #10
Sacrificialgoddess
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This caught my attention:


 


Dec 19, 2010 -- 7:50PM, ManzanitaBear wrote:


The rituals I've participated in have usually entailed calling in a goddess and god, by any name, from any pantheon. And surely you know the "Isis, Astarte, Hecate, Inana" chant? Deities may have different names in different pantheons and be more or less the same.





 


Are you one of the "All gods are one god and all goddesses are one goddess lot?


 


That would eplain a lot.  You know, I am myself and Kea is herself, and while we have a similar attitude on this one, we would both be fairly pissed if you decided we must be the same person.  I have the notion that the goddesses would have the same feelings about being considered adiquate substitutes for each other.

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

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