| 3 years ago :: Oct 28, 2010 - 7:24PM #11 | |
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Issa, sheesh--I DID IT AGAIN!!! I don't know why I keep doing it on this board. I don't do it on others. The buttons for me as mod are in the same place they are usually as just a poster and so I guess I'm hitting the "edit" post button instead of the "quote" post. Just to recap, Issa explained he was an Orthodox Christian, a Catholic cantor, raised (or studied) Baptist theology, and has a lot of liturgical contact with monotheist Hindus (did I get that right, Issa?) He said he was interested in the OP, in this discussion in general, in developing or following philosophical/systematic thought as relates these things, and then asked for an explanation of Pelagianism, Semi-Pelagianism, and Arminianism in laymen's terms. (Sorry!!!...
Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason, my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not retract anything, for to go against conscience would be neither right nor safe. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.
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| 3 years ago :: Oct 28, 2010 - 9:42PM #12 | |
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Ah! Retrieved Issa's original post:
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| 3 years ago :: Nov 03, 2010 - 11:42PM #13 | |
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As everyone knows, the only true orthodox (and Orthodox) position is semi-Pelagian. |
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| 3 years ago :: Nov 09, 2010 - 2:27PM #14 | |
I actually heard one Eastern Orthodox put it, "I prefer the term semi-Augustinian", LOL. Anyway, as this is not a debate board, I...simply disagree. Comments as to why it's orthodox?
Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason, my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not retract anything, for to go against conscience would be neither right nor safe. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.
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| 3 years ago :: Nov 10, 2010 - 7:06PM #15 | |
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Well, semi-Pelagian accounts for both human free will (we can chose to accept or reject God's offer) while accounting for our inability to "earn" salvation. Salvation is a gift freely offered by God and freely accepted by humans. Love cannot be compulsary. Nor can it be conditional. Love simply is. |
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| 2 years ago :: Feb 26, 2011 - 7:41PM #16 | |
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That's helpful, especially in shedding light on the differences between Arminianism and Roman Catholicism. I've been trying to figure out what the differences are, but since--as alluded above--there are several different threads of RCC thought, I could quite work out what a Trent-centric account would be. I don't think the boat account given quite takes into account Vatican II and the possibility of baptisms of bloof or desire, though; it makes being saved sound a lot harder than it probably really is.
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"This is my prayer: that your love may overflow more and more with knowledge and full insight to help you to determine what is best." -- "St. Paul's" [deutero-Pauline] Epistle to the Philippians 1:9-10 "Come now, let us argue it out, says the LORD." -- First Isaiah 1:18 |
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