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8 years ago  ::  Feb 08, 2010 - 6:55PM #1
Acts 28:22
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Oakland LDS Stake tries to heal post-Prop 8 rifts


UW,  I thought you might find a little comfort in this article.  Have a nice Valentines Day next Sunday.


 

It is impossible to stand upright when one plants his roots in the shifting sands of popular opinion and approval.

Thomas S. Monson
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 08, 2010 - 10:37PM #2
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Another possible strategy for LDS people living in hotbeds of resentment toward Mormonism, would be to take a leaf from the now defunct Irish Republican Army (IRA).  May members of this group were quick to point out that they were from the political wing of the IRA instead of the militant wing which blew things up.


I was thinking that these fellow Mormons could tell people they were from the religious wing of the LDS Church.


Faith and Begorrah!

Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 09, 2010 - 12:21AM #3
Acts 28:22
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Feb 8, 2010 -- 10:37PM, moksha8088 wrote:


Another possible strategy for LDS people living in hotbeds of resentment toward Mormonism, would be to take a leaf from the now defunct Irish Republican Army (IRA).  May members of this group were quick to point out that they were from the political wing of the IRA instead of the militant wing which blew things up.


I was thinking that these fellow Mormons could tell people they were from the religious wing of the LDS Church.


Faith and Begorrah!



 I must be  misunderstanding you because that sounds disingenuous to me.  Can you clarify?

It is impossible to stand upright when one plants his roots in the shifting sands of popular opinion and approval.

Thomas S. Monson
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 09, 2010 - 9:30AM #4
UwishUwereMe
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I have a DATE for valentines day!  Yippie!
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2010 - 12:46AM #5
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Feb 9, 2010 -- 12:21AM, Acts 28:22 wrote:


 I must be  misunderstanding you because that sounds disingenuous to me.  Can you clarify?



Nothing disingenuous about emphasizing the religious over the political when it comes to Churches.

Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2010 - 9:52AM #6
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Religion and politics will for ever and always be joined at the hip.  It is just the way it is.  I think it is up to the individual to seperate the two.
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2010 - 4:17PM #7
Acts 28:22
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Feb 10, 2010 -- 12:46AM, moksha8088 wrote:


Feb 9, 2010 -- 12:21AM, Acts 28:22 wrote:


 I must be  misunderstanding you because that sounds disingenuous to me.  Can you clarify?



Nothing disingenuous about emphasizing the religious over the political when it comes to Churches.




I don't understand your logic Mosha. You said that these Saints in Oakland could say "they were from the religious wing of the LDS church,"  this implies another wing.  We are a Church led by men we know to be Prophets and Apostles. The endorsement for support of Prop 8 came from these inspired men.  Which wing do they belong to?

It is impossible to stand upright when one plants his roots in the shifting sands of popular opinion and approval.

Thomas S. Monson
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2010 - 5:24PM #8
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I don't think he means there are two "literal" seperate organizations with in the Church.  I think he means figuratively that there are those members in the Church that are political by nature and see their [conservative] politics gorwing from doctrines of the Chruch.  There are those also that see the Church as purely a religious institution and do not intertwine the two. 

I am the latter.  I do not mix my politics with my religious beliefs.  I believe in my faith and hold it much more dear than I do my politics.  But, for some, you cannot be a Mormon with out standing up for the conservative values that the Church seems to hold and not be political about it.
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8 years ago  ::  Feb 10, 2010 - 8:29PM #9
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I don't understand your logic Mosha. You said that these Saints in Oakland could say"they were from the religious wing of the LDS church,"  this implies another wing.  We are a Church led by men we know to be Prophets and Apostles. The endorsement for support of Prop 8 came from these inspired men.  Which wing do they belong to?


The John Birch Society.


 


 

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8 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2010 - 10:04AM #10
UwishUwereMe
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Bill:  A dispute is brewing in Wyoming over an anti-bullying program called "No Place for Hate," produced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

The banners that came with the program include the logo of the Gay and Lesbian Fund for Colorado, one of the sponsors. Some of the program's content deals with homosexuality.

UWUWM: Around here its still the Posse Comitatus.
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