8 years ago :: Dec 22, 2009 - 12:34PM #11 | |
And Elijah. And Moses.
You are unique.
Just like everybody else. |
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8 years ago :: Dec 23, 2009 - 11:40PM #12 | |
I agree that the Bible is clear that there are a few people who were taken up into heaven, but the thief on the cross isn't one of them, unless Jesus is a liar, because Jesus didn't ascend into heaven on that day, so how could the thief have been there with Him that day? On the other hand, the Bible is clear that God's people will all go to heaven together when Jesus comes to take them there. |
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8 years ago :: Jan 30, 2010 - 1:39PM #13 | |
"What do you all make of Enoch, who walked with God and was not? And then there is the good thief, who is hanging out in Paradise.
And then there are those who heard Christ preaching in Hell" (?) ------------------------------------------ Jesus said: John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man Jesus should know. Jesus was in Heaven; Jesus came down from Heaven.
Concerning Elijah: The same thing happened to Philip after baptizing the Ethiopian eunich, "Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus. And passing through, he preached in all the cities till he came to Caesarea" - Acts 8:39-40 These are quite helpful --- www.ucg.org/bible-faq/enoch-elijah-heave... -- Enoch and Elijah
worldwidechurchgod.blogspot.com/2007/06/... -- longer, detailed version
Thief on the cross -- www.ucg.org/bible-faq/thief-on-the-cross... |
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8 years ago :: Mar 04, 2010 - 7:12PM #14 | |
I do not believe that we see God after our current death. Instead, the fulfillment of Matt. 5:48 "You must be made perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect" requires more lifetimes in order to become perfect. Also see John 1:18 "No man has seen God at any time", includes the dead, since any time includes them too. |
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8 years ago :: Apr 29, 2010 - 4:53PM #15 | |
THE FIRST EPISTLE GENERAL OF PETER CHAPTER 3 18 For Christ also hath once asuffered for sins, the just for the bunjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to cdeath in the flesh, but quickened by the dSpirit: 20 aWhich sometime were bdisobedient, when once the clongsuffering of God waited in the days of dNoah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were esaved by fwater. 21 The like figure whereunto even abaptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 22 Who is gone into aheaven, and is on the right hand of God; bangels and cauthorities and powers being made subject unto him. Christ's spirit was not just laying there in his body for 3 days. As you can read in the Epistle of Peter Christ was in prison teaching those who had been rebellious at the time of the flood. This was done during the time his body was in the tomb and before he had acended up to his father. At the time of death we are all taken to this place where if we were righteous we are in paradise but if we were unrighteous we are in prison as those spirits were. We are there waiting for the Judgement that will come after the second coming of Christ. THE FIRST EPISTLE OF PAUL THE APOSTLE TO THE CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 15 40 aThere are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the bcelestial is one, and the glory of the cterrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the asun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the bstars: for one star cdiffereth from another star in dglory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in acorruption; it is raised in incorruption: After the judgement we will divided into our glory as stated here by Paul. This is the final judegment. This is what we are here preparing for. |
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