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5 years ago  ::  Nov 05, 2009 - 2:36AM #1
Zahra1
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Dividing Inheritance


Imam Ali (AS) was endowed with a quick, sharp, incisive, mathematical mind. Here are a few interesting stories in which Imam Ali's mathematical brilliance revealed itself.


What is a wife's share?


Imam Ali (AS) was once interrupted while he was delivering a sermon from the pulpit by someone who asked him how to distribute the inheritance of someone who had died leaving a wife, his parents and two daughters. The Imam instantly answered:


"The wife's share becomes one ninth."


How?


This answer is in fact the result of a long analysis with a number of steps. Ordinarily, we have to decide on the original share of each of these heirs, in the following way:


The wife takes one eighth, in view of the presence of an inheriting child. [Holy Quran 4:12]


The deceased's father and mother take one sixth each. [Holy Quran 4:11]


The two daughters take two thirds of the inheritance. [Holy Quran 4:11]


So the total will be:
1/8 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 2/3 = 3/24 + 4/24 + 4/24 + 16/24 = 27/24


This means the share becomes less than 1/8 in view of the increase of the total of the shares which are so fixed and prescribed. So the one eighth, the original share due to the wife out of twenty-four total shares, has become three shares out of a total of twenty-seven, which is one ninth.


Imam Ali's mind went through this complex mathematical process in a second!


 


Whole Number and not a Fraction


One Day a Jewish person came to Imam Ali (AS), thinking that since Imam Ali thinks he is too smart, I'll ask him such a tough question that he won't be able to answer it and I'll have the chance to embarrass him in front of all the Arabs.


He asked "Imam Ali, tell me a number, that if we divide it by any number from 1-10 the answer will always come in the form of a whole number and not as a fraction."


Imam Ali (AS) looked back at him and said, "Take the number of days in a year and multiply it with the number of days in a week and you will have your answer."


The Jewish person got astonished but as he was a polytheist (Mushrik), he still didn't believe Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib (AS) He calculated the answer Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib (AS) gave him.


To his amazement he came across the following results:


The number of Days in a Year = 360 (in Arab)


The Number of Days in a Week = 7


The product of the two numbers = 2520


Now...


2520 ÷ 1 = 2520
2520 ÷ 2 = 1260
2520 ÷ 3 = 840
2520 ÷ 4 = 630
2520 ÷ 5 = 504
2520 ÷ 6 = 420
2520 ÷ 7 = 360
2520 ÷ 8 = 315
2520 ÷ 9 = 280
2520 ÷ 10= 252


 


 


Dividing 17 Camels


A person was about to die, and before dying he wrote his Will which went as follows:


"I have 17 Camels, and I have three sons. Divide my Camels in such a way that my eldest son gets half of them, the second one gets 1/3rd of the total and my youngest son gets 1/9th of the total number of Camels."


After his death when the relatives read his will they got extremely perplexed and said to each other that how can we divide 17 camels like this.


So after a long hard thought they decided that there was only one man in Arabia who could help them: "Imam Ali (AS)."


So they all came to the door of Imam Ali (AS) and put forward their problem.


Imam Ali (AS) said, "Ok, I will divide the camels as per the man's will."


Imam Ali (AS) said, "I will lend one of my camels to the total which makes it 18 (17+1=18), now lets divide as per his will."


The eldest son gets 1/2 of 18 = 9
The second one gets 1/3 of 18 = 6
The youngest gets 1/9 of 18 = 2
Now the total number of camels = 17 (9+6+2=17)


Then Imam Ali (AS) said, "Now I will take my Camel back."


 


 The Five Loaves of Bread


Zarr Bin Hobeish relates this story: Two travelers sat together on the way to their destination to have a meal. One had five loaves of bread. The other had three. A third traveler was passing by and at the request of the two joined in the meal.


The travelers cut each of the loaf of bread in three equal parts. Each of the travelers ate eight broken pieces of the loaf.


At the time of leaving the third traveler took out eight dirhams and gave to the first two men who had offered him the meal, and went away. On receiving the money the two travelers started quarrelling as to who should have how much of the money.


The five-loaf-man demanded five dirhams. The three-loaf-man insisted on dividing the money in two equal parts.


The dispute was brought to Imam Ali (AS) (the Caliph of the time in Arabia) to be decided.


Imam Ali (AS) requested the three-loaf-man to accept three dirhams, because five-loaf-man has been more than fair to you. The three-loaf-man refused and said that he would take only four dirhams.


At this Imam Ali (AS) replied, "You can have only one dirham." You had eight loaves between yourselves. Each loaf was broken in three parts. Therefore, you had 24 equal parts. Your three loaves made nine parts out of which you have eaten eight portions, leaving just one to the third traveler. Your friend had five loaves which divided into three made fifteen pieces.


He ate eight pieces and gave seven pieces to the guest. As such the guest shared one part from your loaves and seven from those of your friend. So you should get one dirham and your friend should receive seven dirhams.


 


 Imam Ali's Answering Difficult Questions


One day another Jewish person came to Imam Ali (AS). He was planning to ask Imam Ali (AS) such a question, which would take Imam Ali (AS) a long time to answer and because of that his Maghrib Prayers would be delayed.


He asked, "Imam Ali you say you know everything in the world, then tell me which animals lay eggs and which animals give birth to their young ones."


Imam Ali (AS) looked back at him smiled and said, "The animals who have their 'EARS' outside their body give birth to their young ones and the animals who have their 'EARS' inside their body lay eggs."

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5 years ago  ::  Nov 05, 2009 - 9:53AM #2
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Nov 5, 2009 -- 2:36AM, Zahra1 wrote:


Dividing Inheritance


Imam Ali (AS) was endowed with a quick, sharp, incisive, mathematical mind. Here are a few interesting stories in which Imam Ali's mathematical brilliance revealed itself.


What is a wife's share?


Imam Ali (AS) was once interrupted while he was delivering a sermon from the pulpit by someone who asked him how to distribute the inheritance of someone who had died leaving a wife, his parents and two daughters. The Imam instantly answered:


"The wife's share becomes one ninth."


How?


This answer is in fact the result of a long analysis with a number of steps. Ordinarily, we have to decide on the original share of each of these heirs, in the following way:


The wife takes one eighth, in view of the presence of an inheriting child. [Holy Quran 4:12]


The deceased's father and mother take one sixth each. [Holy Quran 4:11]


The two daughters take two thirds of the inheritance. [Holy Quran 4:11]


So the total will be:
1/8 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 2/3 = 3/24 + 4/24 + 4/24 + 16/24 = 27/24


This means the share becomes less than 1/8 in view of the increase of the total of the shares which are so fixed and prescribed. So the one eighth, the original share due to the wife out of twenty-four total shares, has become three shares out of a total of twenty-seven, which is one ninth.


Imam Ali's mind went through this complex mathematical process in a second!


 




How can Ali's distribute it wrongly?  The Al-Quran says it is one-eighth.  It should therefore be one-eighth, no other!  Are you telling us Ali was cheating people when he was distributing the Faraidh? The wife looks like being shortchanged by 1.3%!  Wasthat for his consultant fee?



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3 years ago  ::  Dec 29, 2011 - 2:52AM #3
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Dear brother...when the shares of the sharers increase beyond the property...it becomes difficult to accord the sharers their shares as the total sum of shares and the property becomes more than the unity....in this case....the shares are altered so as to accord their due shares without disturbing their prescribed shares ....May be following anwer will help u to understand this issue.....




as prescribed in the problem that the total sum of shares divided among the wife, parents and two daughters 



1/8+1//6+1/6+2/3=3/24+4/24+4/24+16/24=27/24 as u can see that numerator is more than denomenator so in order to make it unity we have to alter it as follows




3/27+4/27+4/27+16/27=27/27 and if u further simplify it wife's share becomes 1/9 out of 27  and hence, it is proved that Imam Ali (a.s) distribution was absolutely correct. please divide.......27/9 and 24/8 u will get the same answer.....that is 3. As u can see that Imam Ali a.s did not changed anything one nineth of 27 is same as one eight of 24....I hope u will understand the answer....for better explanation u should contact with a reliable and experienced Muslim Jurist or Qazi.......


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