Just when you thought it was safe to be an Adventist comes the latest self-proclaimed research article by Eugene Shubert, a teacher from Richardson, TX who calls himself "the new William Miller." In his article, he writes that "The Seventh-day Adventist church is composed of seven distinct spiritual factions: Subversives, Legalists, Spiritualists, Papists, Pacifists, Sheeple and true Seventh-day Adventists." He adds, "Ellen White predicted that true Seventh-day Adventists will be a very small minority and that the majority of those who call themselves Seventh-day Adventists will apostatize. More here...

Source: Atoday, Adventist News Roundup, Posted January 3rd, 2008 by Marcel Schwantes

Amen, Samuel. That's why Jesus told the parable of the Wheat and the Tares. We don't need to try to figure out who is wheat and who is tares. All we need to do is keep our eyes on Jesus, and He will surely show the way.

Spudette

Mar 24, 2009 -- 7:30PM, Shubee wrote:

samuelbb7 wrote:

Hypocrites are the worst enemy of the church.

Hypocrisy is such an immense, full-spectrum category in our church, it really doesn't make sense to say that hypocrites are the worst enemies of the church.

Rather than accepting such an obvious contradiction, shouldn't Adventists embrace the Spirit of prophecy instead? Ellen White wrote:

"The worst enemies we have are those who are trying to destroy the influence of the watchmen upon the walls of Zion." 5T 294.

Those who are trying to destroy the influence of the watchmen upon the walls of Zion are indeed hypocrites. The question is how can we make these Adventists understand that they shouldn't oppose the testimonies of God's Spirit as found in compilations from the writings of Ellen G. White?

As you point out it will be hypocrites who try to destroy the influence of watchmen on the walls.  We cannot make anyone understand. It is the Power of the HOLY SPIRIT and the Fear of GOD that brings understanding.  We can speak and pray. 

But since many refused to listen to JESUS while He was here on earth it makes no sense to me to try to say we can convince people of the truth.

We must stand for truth in love and kindness to others. For we do not know which will listen and which are hardened in their hearts.  But too often many argue and fuss and fume instead of working in love for others.  To label others is to follow the Course of Satan and become an accuser of the Brethren.  Only GOD knows who are His.

Shubee wrote: Just when you thought it was safe to be an Adventist comes the latest self-proclaimed research article by Eugene Shubert, a teacher from Richardson, TX who calls himself "the new William Miller." In his article, he writes that "The Seventh-day Adventist church is composed of seven distinct spiritual factions: Subversives, Legalists, Spiritualists, Papists, Pacifists, Sheeple and true Seventh-day Adventists." He adds, "Ellen White predicted that true Seventh-day Adventists will be a very small minority and that the majority of those who call themselves Seventh-day Adventists will apostatize.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Shubert, Why are you attempting to deceive people(writing in the 3rd person) that you aren't the same as "shubee" on these forums??? Your site still reeks with rotten fruit with "Reformed SDAism"

Let's see what EGW said about "true SDAs":

"They went out from us, but they were not of us" [1 John 2:19]. Men of true Christian principle will take their place, and will become faithful, trustworthy householders, to advocate the Word of God in its true bearings and in its simplicity. The Lord will work so that the disaffected ones will be separated from the true and loyal ones. Those who, like Cornelius, will fear God and glorify Him, will take their places. The ranks will not be diminished. Those who are firm and true will close up the vacancies that are made by those who become offended and apostatize.

Christ declared, "They went out from us, but they were not of us." Men of true Christian principles will take their places, and will become faithful, trustworthy householders, to advocate the word of God in its true bearings, and in its simplicity. The Lord will work so that the disaffected ones will be separated from the true and loyal ones. Those who, like Cornelius, will fear God and glorify him, will take their places. The ranks will not be diminished. Those who are firm and true will close up the vacancies that are made by those who become offended and apostatize."

 Shubert, your claims are false-----here on these forums and at your site.(concerning EGW).

Sister White wrote:

"They went out from us, but they were not of us" [1 John 2:19]. Men of true Christian principle will take their place, and will become faithful, trustworthy householders, to advocate the Word of God in its true bearings and in its simplicity. The Lord will work so that the disaffected ones will be separated from the true and loyal ones. Those who, like Cornelius, will fear God and glorify Him, will take their places. The ranks will not be diminished. Those who are firm and true will close up the vacancies that are made by those who become offended and apostatize. — Ms 97, 1898, p. 6.

This is a true statement. There is certainly no contradiction with The Seven Faces of Seventh-day Adventism. Sister White also wrote (in 1893) that not even one in twenty Seventh-day Adventist Church members were saved:

"It is a solemn statement that I make to the church, that not one in twenty whose names are registered upon the church books are prepared to close their earthly history, and would be as verily without God and without hope in the world as the common sinner." — ChS 41 (1893).

Obviously, the percentage of saved Adventists is much smaller today if Sister White's testimony about the great endtime apostasy is true:

"The Lord has warned me that there will come a great apostasy. There will come a falling away in spirituality. Many will turn away their ears from hearing the truth, and will accept fables." — E.G.W., Letter 338, (To J. H. Kellogg, December 22, 1905).

For a survey of the most dangerous fables that many Seventh-day Adventists believe, see The Spiritualism of Adventism. 

What we need to do is concentrate on looking to JESUS.

Aren't you detracting from the testimonies of God's Spirit? Shouldn't we respect Spiritual gifts? I see nothing wrong with the writings of Sister White.