BlessedAlways7 wrote:

Hello, Seventh Day Adventists! I have a question for you. I first came to be introduced to the Seventh Day Adventist faith by a friend of mine several years ago, and I found it to be the truest faith out here today, and so I was baptized in a Seventh Day Adventist church. But recently, I have come to find out that this faith includes a belief I do not agree with. I found out that Seventh Day Adventist believe in abortion as a consideration in the most extreme situations, such as rape, incest, or health reasons. However, I myself believe that if God has blessed you with a child, no matter what the situation, even possible death, you should at least allow that child a life, whether or not you are to be the one to nurture it, and in cases of possible death, you should sacrifice your own life to save that child's. Am I alone here, or is this the belief that has been placed on the heads of all Seventh Day Adventists? I would like to accept this faith as my own, but I can not allow myself to get on board with this particular belief. maybe you can help me figure this out. Thanks.

Blessed, You will find the "Guidelines" which the SDA Church has established for the emotionally charged subject of Abortion.
www.adventist.org
Under the Beliefs heading on the drop-down menu select "Guidelines" and you will find an article explaining the SDA Churches position.

Blessed, As you already quoted in your original quote, yes, the SDA church says it's okay to abort a baby. In fact, their hospitals will even provide the service. My mother is a nurse at one of their major hospitals and has confirmed for me that they do provide abortions. In case you were worried about something serious though, the hospital DOES NOT allow pork to be eaten in the cafeteria. Too bad the aborted babies weren't baby pigs, they would stand a better chance of living.

Haldog, The position of the Church is not a blanket--O.K.-----In ALL cases, it is the person who has the final say after counseling.  While the Church does not look upon the aborting of a pregnancy due to rape, incest, or the preservation of the life of the mother, IT DOES NOT condone "elective abortions".  

I have no knowledge of the hospital where your mother works; but in the major cities in which we have hospitals and in which I have lived, "elective abortions" are not done. Even in other hospitals, such procedures are usually done in "clinics".

Another factor is the staffing of non-SDA physicians(SDA administered----but, not owned), who may do such with the consultation of several other physicians. The hospital By-Laws and Physician priviledges are another consideration.

Therefore, again, it is the pregnant woman who chooses/is the determining factor as to Abortion and NOT the Church's forcing a person's will. Force was never applied to any person by GOD.(To keep them from sinning)    We reap that which we sow.(individually) 

Just where is the scripture which says the babies life is more important than the mother's?

Jun 18, 2010 -- 10:46PM, Van wrote:

Fact: You can get an abortion at many SDA hospitals with no problem. Fact: Approximately 10% of the employees at SDA hospitals are SDA's. Fact: Abortion for any reason is permitted in SDA hospitals. Fact: Abortion can not be supported by the bible. Fact: Abortion is murder of inocent human life. Fact: I am and SDA and ashamed of the position of many of my churches' leaders in this area. Fact: I believe in the official teachings of the SDA church and will , with God's grace, always remain an SDA. God will judge the people who are misguided who came up with the "guidelines" for abortion.

Van, Would you mind naming those hospitals which are SDA owned or Administered which do Abortions for "any reasons". Second, Look very closely at who the abortion decision lies squarely upon.  In fact, a procedure can not be performed without the patient's consent.  Third, have you even read the guidelines?

My wife was in a hospital for two months recently and all procedures done were consented to be preformed. 

Jun 19, 2010 -- 10:58PM, Van wrote:

  There have been 3 sets of guidelines so far: 1970, 1971, and 1992. The last set of guidelines was approved by the General Conference executive commitee at fall council. As you read the wording it is clear that there is double talk. On the one hand abortion is frowned upon and on the other we are not to judge the woman having the abortion. No where will you read that it is murder. The early pioneers of the SDA church called it right; murder.

Van, Not "double talk", but plain speaking to the subject. Have you been appointed a judge by GOD?  Who is responsible for ones actions? Was the serpent responsible for Eve's choice?  OR Eve for Adam's? Or GOD for them all? 

Your posted,

Fact: You can get an abortion at many SDA hospitals with no problem.

  yet, you posted,

I don't know of all the SDA hospitals doing abortions, but I know that the 2 closest to me are: Shady Grove Hospital and Washington Adventist Hospital.

Van, what is an abortion? It is the same thing as a "miscarriage of a pregnancy". Many women "miscarry" and it is NOT Murder. Wikipedia indicates that 25% of pregnancies end in miscarriage by the 16th week post LMP. and some of those require a hospital visit for a D/C procedure.( in most cases, all the products of conception are expelled.) These are the "Facts".

Jun 19, 2010 -- 10:58PM, Van wrote:

 The abortions are always performed with the approval of the mother. As I see it abortions should only be approved when the life of the mother (not health or emotional stability...etc) is in danger-such as a tubal pregnancy. I hope this helps. God bless! 

Van,  In the days since the "last guidelines" were established, there has been a preventing "pill" which in the case of "rape", "incest", etc. can be taken to prevent the "conception".  Therefore,  the desire to obtain an abortion.  (That doesn't eliminate the feeling of being "defiled, violated,  or abused".)

Van, From the "GUIDELINES": 

Jun 22, 2010 -- 9:43AM, Van wrote:

  It's hard for me to know where to start but I will address a couple of points. First, Christians are not to judge anothers motive but do have a responsibility to inspect the fruit.

Van, then why did you Judge the whole of SDA on the termination of a pregnancy when the stance of the SDA Church is opposite that which you have given??  Therefore, your "facts" are lies. BTW, this isn't the "Discuss forum" and we are entering into that mode. Therefore, if you want to continue with the SDA Beliefs concerning Pregnancies----take it to the Discuss Forum.

I don't see the relevance in the Joshua curse and wilful termination by Hiel. Are you saying your wife and you were cursed?--- I don't think so, as I posted, "miscarriages" are "spontaneous abortions".